RE: Setting the archive destination

There is way a to backup(through RMAN) archlogs from a different destination when you have your archlogs dir full. First move some of the archlogs to a different place where you have room and then run the following command sequence from RMAN>

1. Run the RMAN command: CHANGE ARCHIVELOG ALL VALIDATE.
2. For each archivelog that was moved to a new location, run the R MAN command: CATALOG ARCHIVELOG 'new_name_of_archivelog'.

HTH Thx
Gautam

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From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com [mailto:Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 8:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Setting the archive destination

Thanks for your response.

Unfortunately I am not convinced it's that simple.

They finally gave me the extra space I was asking for yesterday when everything
ground to a halt - there were ~150 arc files to be backed up. At peak processing they generate one 100M arc file every 1-2 minutes. I see no way around this. So they generate ~5GB an hour, and a tape backup job to write this
much data can take three hours. I have tried bumping up the frequency of the
rman jobs, but they seem to step on each other and screw each other up (NetBackup is our lovely backup software). Add to it one of the tape drives may
be on the fritz and it's very difficult to tell which one it is, per our SA. So
jobs die just for the heck of it.

I had jobs running every 15 min during peak processing - Didn't help. I had 12
jobs sitting out there at one time fighting for resources. The best frequency
I've found is once an hour. And with the space I now have, I think I'm in good
shape at least until I leave at the end of the month, and I can now sleep at night and do things other than babysit backups during the day.

A big dirty martini helped me get over this fiasco.

Thanks
Lisa
Minneapolis,MN,USA

ddorr.cs_at_clearstream.com on 06/15/2000 05:00:49 AM

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I think the solution may be elsewhere.
If your arch directory fills so quickly that RMAN does not have time to back it up, it may be time to enlarge this filesystem, or compress archived redologs if not already done.
If RMAN does not run often enough (eg, you run RMAN once a day, but sometimes extra activity generates more redo and your archive dir fills up), then you can run regularly (via cron) a shell script than monitors the free space in this dir and launches an extra RMAN session (wich will only backup the archives ) if needed.

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> From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com[SMTP:Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com]
> Reply To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 22:33
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re:Setting the archive destination
>
> Will doing this possibly mess with a currently running RMAN job?
> This happens so frequently I could scream: My arc destination fills up
> and I
> have to manually fiddle with the backups, and move files not included in
> the
> current backup elsewhere until the current backup completes. Then I move
> the
> arclogs back to the arc dest and start another backup. Would issuing this
> command at the command line confuse the currently running RMAN job?
>
> I'm dealing with this right now. Once I get out of this mess I will try
> it out.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
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> dgoulet_at_vicr.com on 06/14/2000 10:55:32 AM
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> Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc: (bcc: Lisa Koivu/GELCO)
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>
>
>
> alter system archivelog start to <wherever>
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Linda Hagedorn <Linda_at_pets.com>
> Date: 6/13/00 1:13 PM
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there a way to set the archive destination on a system which is
> running,
> or will I have to change the config file and shutdown/startup the
> database?
>
> Thanks, Linda
>
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