On the goofing off agenda after my vacations which are
starting tomorrow :-)
- continue to learn new 8i features
- check what is new in the datawarehouse world after a
1 year break
- check in that java stuff
- improve my unix knowledge (probably the easiest part
taking in account from where I'm starting)
All that and working too !
- Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com> a écrit : > On
Tue, 6 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] paquette stephane
> wrote:
>
> > I totally agree with Joe, I'm getting paid for my
> > knowledge that's why I spend time on the web and
> read
> > books.
>
> I'm glad to hear there are so many of us that work
> this way.
>
> It makes me feel better about all the time I spend
> reading,
> experimenting, and just plain thinking about how to
> do things.
>
> Some people ( usually damagers ) perceive this type
> of
> behavior as 'goofing off'.
>
> Us 'goof offs' quite often get our work done quickly
> though.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "HAWKINS, JAMES W [FND/1000]"
> > <JAMES.W.HAWKINS_at_stl.Monsanto.com> a écrit : >
> Deepak,
> > >
> > > Agreed, but don't forget to add that we get paid
> for
> > > the responsibility of
> > > protecting data. The bottom line is that I can
> sit
> > > idle and watch my
> > > E*Trade account all day until someone drops a
> > > production table, then I
> > > better get it back with no data lost. That's
> what I
> > > mostly get paid for.
> > > There has to be someone to point the finger at
> when
> > > the proverbial dung hits
> > > the fan...
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ______________________________________
> > > Jim Hawkins
> > > Oracle Database Administration Team
> > > Monsanto Company
> > > 800 North Lindbergh - G3ED
> > > St. Louis, MO 63167
> > > 314.694.7592 - Office
> > > 314.308.6614 - Cellular
> > > 314.294.2623 - Pager
> > > james.w.hawkins_at_monsanto.com
> > >
> > > "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win
> > > glorious triumphs, even
> > > though checkered by failure, than to take rank
> with
> > > those poor spirits
> > > who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because
> they
> > > live in the gray
> > > twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
> > >
>
> > > --Theodore Roosevelt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 11:51 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > Absolutely true. Knowledge is what we get paid
> for.
> > > This has been my experience too regd the work I
> have
> > > been doing, (esp. Physical DBA).
> > >
> > > However, what I don't understand is when people
> talk
> > > about supporting 10 peoplesoft databases, what
> > > exactly
> > > do they do. My current client has Peoplesoft
> > > financial
> > > and Order management applications which total
> upto
> > > 12
> > > databases in all. Apart from that I am also
> > > supporting
> > > non-peoplesoft databases (4). All I do daily is
> > > check
> > > my email for any outstanding user requests,
> check
> > > the
> > > Alert logs, run DB monitoring scripts against
> select
> > > few databases etc. Apart from this daily
> activity,
> > > there are adhoc requests to refresh test from
> prod,
> > > fix database errors and so on. This has been the
> > > case
> > > with most of the clients I'd been working with.
> Now,
> > > my question to the (Physical) DBAs is, what
> extra
> > > stuff they do regularly to come with 40+ Hrs per
> > > week.
> > >
> > > My formula for 40 Hrs:
> > >
> > > 2 Hrs Regular DB support +
> > > 2 Hrs Email & Web Browsing +
> > > 1 Hr Lunch +
> > > 1 Hr Phone +
> > > 2 Hrs Self Study = Daily 8 Hrs
> > >
> > > I know people who genuinely work 40+ Hrs, but
> most
> > > of
> > > the fellow DBAs I know spend lot of time doing
> > > nothing
> > > concrete. How else could they participate in the
> > > stock
> > > market ?
> > >
> > > -- Deepak
> > >
> > > --- "Joseph S. Testa" <teci_at_oracle-dba.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Deepak, my latest job, i have to agree with
> you,
> > > > most weeks its less
> > > > than 40, rarely ts more than 40.
> > > >
> > > > reason that i've come to conclusion is this:
> > > >
> > > > they pay me for what i know, not necessarily
> what
> > > i
> > > > do, knowledge is
> > > > power(and money these days).
> > > >
> > > > they catch is this: dont get stale, read the
> new
> > > > documentation when it
> > > > comes out, buy books, read them and stay on
> top of
> > > > the new stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is a prime example:
> > > >
> > > > while at IOUG-A in may, i was paged about a
> > > > partitioned table, they
> > > > wanted to move rows between the partitions(ie:
> > > > change the key value), by
> > > > dafault you can't do that, so they were
> panicked
> > > > enough to potentially,
> > > > unload millions of rows, change the key value
> > > during
> > > > the unload,
> > > > truncate the table, and reload all the data.
> > > >
> > > > I was studying for 8i OCP exam and had just
> read
> > > > about
> > > > alter table <table_name> enable row movement;
> > > >
> > > > by default row movment is disabled.
> > > >
> > > > so they pay me for what I know :)
> > > >
> > > > my 2 cents worth.
> > > >
> > > > joe
> > > > Deepak Sharma wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How many of the DBAs out there frankly work
> more
> > > > than
> > > > > 40 Hrs a week on an average ? I have seen
> DBAs,
> > > > > specifically contrators (I'm one myself) put
> in
> > > 10
>
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Stephane Paquette
Received on Thu Jun 08 2000 - 11:46:18 CDT
