RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO

From: Bruce Page <bpage_at_kimball.com>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:38:07 -0500
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Let me guess... you are the only developer in your shop or they all = have
more experience than you.

I have received as many stupid questions from developers as I have from = end
users. And end users do not write code to go against my databases.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Griffith [mailto:Chris.Griffith_at_dstm.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO

I agree. The job of the DBA seems to be everything that everyone else either doesn't want to do or doesn't have the ability to do. We get = the
wonderful task of figuring out all of the things too hard for everyone = else
to figure out.

But, I would much rather support developers than users. Users ask too = many
stupid questions.

Chris Griffith
OCP DBA -----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:15 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

There seems to be differing views here.

I would suggest that this is a very typical jd for many production = DBA's. I
would go on to suggest that many DBA's are in deed jack of all trades = (and
master of some, I would hope). I have been in roles where I sat on my = DBA
throne and dictated to developers on how to optimise their code and I = have
been in roles where I did everything from install and configure = hardware to
wipe users bums. Your typical DBA does what's needed to get the job = done.

And I would take a week supporting uses over a day supporting = developers
anytime!

Phil West - Impex IT ltd
Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA Services

[ all opinions, unless otherwise stated, are personal=20 and subject to change without reason or warning ! ]

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I've been an Oracle DBA for 1.5 years. For the last six months I've = worked
as a Java developer, in addition to supporting Oracle databases (all development). I'm at a crossroads here, trying to decide on a career = path.
Is the job description below pretty typical for DBA work? The idea of providing help desk support and end user support is enough to make me = vomit.
That is just my personal preference.=20

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Currently, Great-West Life has a full-time permanent position available = in
the
Financial Services Systems Division working on the Technical = Infrastructure
team
(comprised of System Administrators, Database Administrators and System Programmers). This challenging and team-oriented environment supports = our
rapidly growing Financial Services Division.

Helping to set long-term technical direction for the division, this individual
will be responsible for:

=B7 Providing technical support on UNIX-based distributed computing =
platforms
(specifically Sun/Solaris systems) for Oracle RDBMS and related = products
(e.g.,
SQL*Plus, Pro*C, PL/SQL, Developer/2000 specifically Forms 4.5, Designer/2000,
Browser).
=B7 Perform 1st and 2nd Tier Help Desk and end-user support. In this
capacity,
will analyze and resolve technical issues relating to:

In-house applications
3rd party software
Database performance, capacity, recovery
Hardware and associated peripherals (some)
=B7 The installation and management of Oracle related products.
=B7 Acting as team lead/coordinator of major project initiatives =
related to the DBA team.
=B7 Document all operations procedures related to team.
=B7 Some on-call time required (no more than 1/4 of year as primary =
DBA). =20 M ust have previous database administration experience, specifically = with Oracle v7.x and v8.x, preferably on Sun Solaris environments. Needs to be = able tom ultitask and deal with a high-level of interruptions. Strong = interpersonal and=20 communication skills a requirement to succeed in this position. Other desirable=20 experience:

=B7 Sun Servers, Solaris operating system.
=B7 EcoTools, Veritas Volume Manager, Veritas File System, Veritas =
Quick I/O.
=B7 UNIX Tools & Utilities, (C/Bourne/Korn shell, Perl, tar, cpio, =
etc.), NFS,
NIS, TCP/IP.
=B7 Intranet, Internet & Extranet, and WEB server environments.
=B7 Project Management.
=B7 System Security.
=B7 Server Capacity Planning and Performance Tuning.
=B7 X-terminals, Workstations, PCs.
=B7 Multi-threaded server experience.

This position requires a degree in Computer Science or Information = Systems,
or
equivalent applicable work experience.

Please send resume to :

                Alan Bowden
Great-West Life & Annuity Insurance Company
        8515 E. Orchard Rd., MS-5T2
            Englewood, CO 80111
            FAX: (303) 737-4850
         EMAIL: alan.bowden_at_gwl.com

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Let me guess... you are the only developer in your = shop or they all have more experience than you.

I have received as many stupid questions from = developers as I have from end users.  And end users do not write = code to go against my databases.

-----Original Message----- From: Chris Griffith [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:Chris.Griffith_at_dstm.com">mailto:Chris.Griffith_at_dstm.com</= A>]

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:29 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, =

CO

I agree.  The job of the DBA seems to be = everything that everyone else
 either doesn't want to do or doesn't have the = ability to do.  We get the
 wonderful task of figuring out all of the things too = hard for everyone else
 to figure out.

But, I would much rather support developers than = users.  Users ask too many
 stupid questions.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Chris Griffith</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>OCP DBA</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:15 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>

There seems to be differing views here.

I would suggest that this is a very typical jd for = many production DBA's.  I
 would go on to suggest that many DBA's are in deed = jack of all trades (and
 master of some, I would hope).  I have been in = roles where I sat on my DBA
 throne and dictated to developers on how to optimise = their code and I have
 been in roles where I did everything from install = and configure hardware to
 wipe users bums.  Your typical DBA does what's = needed to get the job done.

And I would take a week supporting uses over a day = supporting developers
 anytime!

Phil West - Impex IT ltd Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA = Services

[  all opinions, unless otherwise stated, are = personal 
 and subject to change without reason or  = warning !  ]

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:40 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

I've been an Oracle DBA for 1.5 years. For the last = six months I've worked
 as a Java developer, in addition to supporting = Oracle databases (all
 development). I'm at a crossroads here, trying to = decide on a career path.
 Is the job description below pretty typical for DBA = work? The idea of
 providing help desk support and end user support is = enough to make me vomit.
 That is just my personal preference.

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:04 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

Currently, Great-West Life has a full-time permanent = position available in
 the
 Financial Services Systems Division working on the = Technical Infrastructure
 team
 (comprised of System Administrators, Database = Administrators and System
 Programmers).  This challenging and = team-oriented environment supports our rapidly growing Financial Services Division.

Helping to set long-term technical direction for the = division, this

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>individual</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will be responsible for:</FONT>
</P>

=B7 Providing technical support on UNIX-based = distributed computing platforms
 (specifically Sun/Solaris systems) for Oracle RDBMS = and related products
 (e.g.,
 SQL*Plus, Pro*C, PL/SQL, Developer/2000 specifically = Forms 4.5,

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Designer/2000,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Browser).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 Perform 1st and 2nd Tier Help Desk and end-user =

support.  In this
 capacity,
 will analyze and resolve technical issues relating = to:

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; - In-house applications</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; - 3rd party software</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; - Database performance, capacity, =

recovery
   - Hardware and associated peripherals = (some)
 =B7 The installation and management of Oracle = related products.
 =B7 Acting as team lead/coordinator of major project = initiatives related to

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>DBA team.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 Document all operations procedures related to =

team.
 =B7 Some on-call time required (no more than 1/4 of = year as primary DBA).  
 M
  ust have previous database administration = experience, specifically with
 Oracle
 v7.x and v8.x, preferably on Sun Solaris = environments.  Needs to be able tom  ultitask and deal with a high-level of = interruptions.  Strong interpersonal and 
 communication skills a requirement to succeed in = this position.  Other

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>desirable </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>experience:</FONT>
</P>

=B7 Sun Servers, Solaris operating system. =B7 EcoTools, Veritas Volume Manager, Veritas File = System, Veritas Quick I/O.
 =B7 UNIX Tools & Utilities, (C/Bourne/Korn = shell, Perl, tar, cpio, etc.), NFS, NIS, TCP/IP.
 =B7 Intranet, Internet & Extranet, and WEB = server environments.

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 Project Management.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 System Security.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 Server Capacity Planning and Performance =

Tuning.

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 X-terminals, Workstations, PCs.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=B7 Multi-threaded server experience.</FONT>
</P>

This position requires a degree in Computer Science = or Information Systems,

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>equivalent applicable work experience.</FONT>
</P>

Please send resume to :

&nb= sp;     Alan Bowden Great-West Life & Annuity Insurance = Company
         8515 E. = Orchard Rd., MS-5T2
           &nb= sp; Englewood, CO 80111
         &nbsp= ;   FAX: (303) 737-4850          = EMAIL: alan.bowden_at_gwl.com

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Donita Hilfinger</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: dohi_at_gwl.com</FONT>
</P>

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) = 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, =
California        -- Public Internet = access / Mailing Lists
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