A small mistake is nothing compared to the benefit of this list. Thanks for
letting us keep it alive and well! Ruth
- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Bergman <bbergman_at_BridgeMedical.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 5:57 PM
Subject: ADMIN: Answers to some of your questions...
> Hey everyone...
>
> A few questions have been asked, so I'll answer them all here in one fell
> swoop.
>
> First of all, yes, the list was down for most of the day yesterday. I had
a
> guy out at my house to do some work on our alarm system and while he was
> working, I decided to do some work on the server. I carelessly
disconnected
> myself from the network and then shortly thereafter went to work. ;-)
> <sigh> You'd think it was a Monday or something. ;-) In any case, my
> apologies for the outage and thanks to everyone for being so nice about
not
> complaining. You folks are great.
>
> In a message, guy ruth hammond [mailto:grh_at_agency.com] wrote:
> > Could you clarify the policy on attachments to email messages
> > please? I posted an ASCII text attachment, and got told (presumably by
> > a daemon) that posting binaries was not allowed. It's cool: I'll just
> paste
> > code into the body of the messages in future.
>
> Attachments generally ARE filtered out by ListGuru. It is possible that
> some get through, but I'd say 97% of them get caught by my filter and
turned
> into a text file saying something like "binary content removed...". This
> doesn't literally mean binaries, but more specifically anything that is
> base64 encoded. Generally that will be pictures, imagines, executables,
> etc, but depending on your mailer, it can also be simple text files.
> Uuencoded files, since they aren't usually sent via base64 encoding, will
> generally get through my filters, but that's just between you and me. ;-)
> Very few mailers send anything uuencoded any longer (MIME being more
> popular), but it does occur.
>
> If you want to send text, you'd be better off just inserting it directly
> into the message body.
>
> It's unfortunate that the majority get penalized for the few who have
posted
> large binaries in the past, but it's just a safer policy NOT to allow
> attachments -- that way no one gets drowned in extra traffic they don't
> want, and we avoid complaints, death threats, etc.
>
> There *IS* a way to send binaries, BTW. There is a ListGuru command
called
> SUBMIT that allows anyone on this list to put any kind of binary file into
> the archives section of the list. That file can then be downloaded via
> E-mail by any other subscriber to the list. For example, if you had a
.ZIP
> file with some cool PL/SQL in it, you could upload it to the archives
using
> the SUBMIT command, then post a message saying "File xyz.zip is in the
> archives. It does..." to the list, and interested parties could then
> download it via the GET command. You can always send ListGuru a HELP or
> HELP SUBMIT for more information on how to use SUBMIT, GET or any other
> command, or just ask me if you have questions.
>
> In a message, michael emilfarb [mailto:michael.emilfarb_at_tufts.edu] wrote:
> > Do you know if Digest format being activated yet. I sent
> > several requests for it with no success. Thanks.
>
> Yes, DIGEST mode is available. You can turn on DIGEST mode at any time by
> sending a command to ListGuru like this:
>
> SET ORACLE-L DIGEST
>
> To get back to individual messages, use:
>
> SET ORACLE-L MAIL
>
> Note that all commands to ListGuru should be mailed to
> 'ListGuru_at_fatcity.com' **NOT** the list. A couple people have already
sent
> some SET commands to the list, but they should have gone to the automated
> address. ListGuru filters out most commands, but I have chosen not to
> filter out SET commands because the word 'SET' occurs so frequently as to
> make it hard to ascertain which is which. You shouldn't see other
ListGuru
> commands in list traffic, however.
>
> Hint: if you get a warning from ListGuru about your message appearing to
> contain commands or be a vacation auto-responder, you can get around the
> filter by either deliberately misspelling the offending text, or by
putting
> that part of your message more than 10 lines down from the top. ListGuru
> only checks each message in the first 10 lines -- after that it doesn't
care
> what you put in the message.
>
> Sorry, got off-topic there. If you've sent the proper command and
ListGuru
> says you aren't a subscriber, then your address is likely different from
> your subscribed address. The easiest way to fix this is to contact me
> directly and I'll look into it for you. You can always reach me here or
at
> my permanent address: bruceb_at_fatcity.com.
>
> In a message, Khedr, Waleed [mailto:Waleed.Khedr_at_FMR.COM] wrote:
> > I do not think you remember when I posted something two years
> > ago about the hard coded REPLY-TO field in discussion groups.
> >
> > I believe we have it here is this new list.
> >
> > When you try to reply to or reply all any message it goes
> > only to the list.
>
> This is true, and I think I addressed this yesterday. Based on
discussions
> I've had with other list managers, and my fellow peers who are also
authors
> of MLM software, it's our belief that most people feel responses should
> always go to the list, not the individual. After all, that's why they
call
> these discussion lists, not announcement lists. ;-) In any case, Jared
has
> asked whether I'd be willing to change it so that they responses go back
to
> the author by default. I'm willing to submit to the group's choice. If
you
> have a strong feeling either way, please E-mail Jared or me with your
vote.
> If you're ambivalent or really just don't care, just don't respond either
> way. But if you feel strongly one way or the other, PRIVATELY send us
your
> preference. Using the typical net.news voting protocol, if there is more
> support for the reply-to-author method than for the reply-to-list method,
> I'll change the way the list works. Let's give it, say, a week for
voting?
> So by next Friday?
>
> In a private message, Terry Sikes [mailto:tsikes_at_netcom.com] wrote:
> > DOes this list allow cross-posting with the ODTUG lists?
>
> No list at fatcity allows cross-posting. Since this is a common ploy that
> spammers use to get to many lists at once, we have specifically disallowed
> it. In fact, if you try posting to more than one list at fatcity.com in
the
> same message, you'll get a response back that basically makes you think
> NEITHER list exists. Again, this is a measured response so that the
> spammers think they don't have a hit. I'm sure they really don't care,
but
> hey, it helps. ;-) If you want to cross-post to the ODTUG lists, or any
> other list here, you'll have to send individual copies to each list.
>
> I think that's it. Again, please don't hesitate to contact me with any
> questions or problems you may have.
>
> thanks,
> bruce
> (ListMaster_at_fatcity.com)
> --
> Author: Bruce Bergman
> INET: bbergman_at_BridgeMedical.com
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