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NotaDBA
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What if i place two datafiles on same disk?
What if i place a data file and an index file on the same disk?

What are the problems that i may with this given scenario?

Disk 01 - Control file 1, Data1
Disk 02 - control file 2, Data2
Disk 03 - Data3, Data4
Disk 04 - Data5, Index1

TIA
NOTADBA

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Re: physical layout [message #127210 is a reply to message #127209] Sat, 09 July 2005 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
girish.rohini
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NotaDBA wrote:
What if i place two datafiles on same disk?
What if i place a data file and an index file on the same disk?

What are the problems that i may with this given scenario?

Disk 01 - Control file 1, Data1
Disk 02 - control file 2, Data2
Disk 03 - Data3, Data4
Disk 04 - Data5, Index1

TIA
NOTADBA SO NOTADEVIL YET


**Datafile: file containing user data
**Indexfile: file containing user indexes

1. U can place 2 datafiles on same disks. But first decide on what data will be stored in those files. If that data has to be accessed simultaneously (most of the time) & in bulk, better to place these files on separate disk. This will balance the I/O on disks.

2. Ideally indexes should be placed on separate disks (if disks available). Place this alongwith any of the control files on disks.

3. Control file placement is OK.

4. NOTADBA SO NOTADEVIL YET
Hey, DBAs are not all that bad...

Regds
Girish

[EDIT]: minor typo

[Updated on: Sat, 09 July 2005 23:48]

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Re: physical layout [message #127211 is a reply to message #127210] Sat, 09 July 2005 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NotaDBA
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Thanx for the reply. I didnt meant to hurt with that quote, if that sounds really in a derogatory way then i must apologise.

Thanks again for early reply.

Cheers
NOTADBA
Re: physical layout [message #127405 is a reply to message #127209] Mon, 11 July 2005 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smartin
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Do you really have an environment with physically separate and individual disks? You don't have RAID or diskgroups going on?
Re: physical layout [message #127461 is a reply to message #127209] Mon, 11 July 2005 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NotaDBA
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I dont have RAID, just straight disks.

Thanks
NotaDBA
Re: physical layout [message #127469 is a reply to message #127209] Mon, 11 July 2005 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smartin
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Yikes, make sure you take good backups. And spread your redo log group members across multiple disks as you are doing with control files.
Re: physical layout [message #127532 is a reply to message #127209] Tue, 12 July 2005 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Achchan
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Hi all,
I have seen this many times:The meaning of "disk" is fuzzy and diff people use to understand diff meanings from that.
Do you mean you have really 4 seperate HARD DISKS in your case?(Not RAID ofcourse)
Or you just have ONE HARD DISK and it has 4 seperate "Disk Drives" called c:,d:,E:,f: ? You should concern recovery issues when you put your control files and redo logs on just ONE HARD DISK.
-best wishes
Re: physical layout [message #127586 is a reply to message #127209] Tue, 12 July 2005 07:32 Go to previous message
smartin
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Yeah, that is what I was trying to get at with my question to the OP. One disk is fine for a nice little sandbox development single user on your pc to test and figure things out with database. But "not a good idea" for the real deal.
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