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| Re: Open APEX app outside my network [message #650410 is a reply to message #650351] |
Sun, 24 April 2016 10:55   |
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Littlefoot
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Janning
... at work we are on APEX 4.2.
I need a space from oracle on 4.2, can anyone show me where/how to do this ?
I have to get my feet wet on 4.2.... somehow...
I don't understand what you are saying.
First you said that - at work - you use Apex 4.2.
Then you said that you need a (work?)space on apex.oracle.com, version 4.2. If that's what you really said, then you can't get it as apex.oracle.com is currently running Apex 5.
Finally, you said that you have to use 4.2, somehow. But, didn't you say that you do use Apex 4.2 at work? How do these two statements go together? You have 4.2 but already, but you have to have 4.2, somehow.
I just don't understand it.
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| Re: Open APEX app outside my network [message #650412 is a reply to message #650411] |
Sun, 24 April 2016 12:19 |
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Littlefoot
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OK, that makes sense now.
Why wouldn't your administrator (at work) create a workspace (as well as a developer) for you on your Apex 4.2? That takes just a few minutes. Doing so, you'd have your own playground (i.e. a workspace), create your own application(s), using your own Oracle user (schema) and NOT interfere with anyone else.
Alternatively, download Oracle 11g XE database, install it onto your own computer. It already contains Apex 4.0.2 (unless I'm wrong). Then go to OTN and download Apex 4.2 from the Prior Release Archives page. Follow the installation instructions and upgrade your XE's 4.0.2 to 4.2.x and you're ready to go.
The second approach is kind of more difficult, but you'll learn something new about Apex installation. As that would be your own database and Apex, you'd be THE almighty boss and do whatever you want, from creating/dropping users to playing around with Apex features. All of that at no cost at all.
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| Re: Open APEX app outside my network [message #650414 is a reply to message #650412] |
Sun, 24 April 2016 12:39 |
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Janning
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Again It's a government entity...they are locked down... I'm a new employee... actually,
I'm a contractor... so I have no power,,. I don't want to stir up asking for things as a new emp.
you'd have to have spent a day here... you'd know...it would take 3 weeks to get that.
That's 3 weeks I could be doing a tutorial.
if you know anything about government jobs? then if I told you who is was.... you'd understand.
and I need this... 2 weeks ago!! I've been there over two weeks and do not have any access, even to DEV.
it took a week to get a PC! I've been tutorial-int on 5.0 off my home APEX I HAVE installed.
I could do another box... but I'm betting I do get access to DEV... in a few days.
when I do , I'll have "work" to do... so I need something now... to get in some "flight time" on 4.2
otherwise I'd set up a virtual box and install 4.2
so? now do you understand? please don't take this the wrong way... but, I don't have the time to debate,
what I should/could or what they should do if the twang me to learn etc.
At this point, if I could get you to agree that running 5.0 in component view,
and using the 4.2 tutorial will get me 80% plus what I need... I'm good to go?
my plan is to use the below 4.2 tutorial and do it on my APEX 5 in component view.
I was told this would be 80% as good as doing it on APEX 4.2
http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/tutorials/obe/db/apex/r42/apexstart_b/apexstart_b.html
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| Re: Open APEX app outside my network [message #650424 is a reply to message #650416] |
Mon, 25 April 2016 00:50 |
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Littlefoot
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Well, I clearly told you my opinion.
It is a little bit strange, saying that you can't (or don't want to) ask the admin to provide working environment for you. It doesn't matter that you are a new employee; why wouldn't you be allowed to ASK for something you need in order to do your job?
On the other hand, it sounds as if you applied for that job, and that one of the requirements was Apex 4.2 knowledge while you don't actually know/use it, which - in turn - means that you lied about your capabilities so you desperately need to put your hands and eyes onto 4.2 before the employee finds that out. If that's correct, you might find yourself in trouble.
Saying that you'll practice 4.2 on 5.0, thinking that the only difference is component vs. tree view, is delusion. There are similarities, but there are significant differences as well. Once you switch to 4.2 (after practicing on 5.0), I'm afraid that you'll be puzzled, trying to find properties which just aren't where you expect them to be.
So, how effective will you be? No idea, so I'll just repeat myself: good luck!
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