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Loading of foreign text [message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 04:00

Ravin_C
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Hi guys,

When i load a name such as 'DÂ'Costa' using sql loader, after loading in Oracle it becomes 'DÂ¿Costa'.

Any ideas guys?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454533 is a reply to message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 04:04

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By using the appropriate NLS parameters.
Which mean post the current values.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454571 is a reply to message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 05:34

Ravin_C
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thanks guys.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454591 is a reply to message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 06:48

Ravin_C
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But during transfer from table to table it get changed from 'DÂ¿Costa' to 'DCosta'.

Hows that?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454593 is a reply to message #454591]

Thu, 06 May 2010 06:55

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You are still using the wrong NLS parameters.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454609 is a reply to message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 08:13

Ravin_C
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the problem is can't predict the input (NLS) language, its loaded as part of a batch process and the data is multi national.

[Updated on: Thu, 06 May 2010 08:14]

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454611 is a reply to message #454609]

Thu, 06 May 2010 08:25

Michel Cadot
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And then you can set the NLS parameters.
At least you should know in which character set the input file comes.
If you can't, then nothing can be done.
NLS parameters is the way you tell Oracle how to see/interpret the data.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454614 is a reply to message #454527]

Thu, 06 May 2010 08:29

Ravin_C
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Thanks

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454749 is a reply to message #454527]

Fri, 07 May 2010 03:49

Ravin_C
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How could i pull(sql)and see all the foreign & gibbrish characters that exists in the datadase.

Please help?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454756 is a reply to message #454749]

Fri, 07 May 2010 04:56

Michel Cadot
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SELECT?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454760 is a reply to message #454527]

Fri, 07 May 2010 05:06

Ravin_C
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yes please, i have to identify all the affected ones so that the DBA can perform a clean up.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454761 is a reply to message #454760]

Fri, 07 May 2010 05:07

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Not the work for the DBA, A DBA manages the database not the data, it is your data, you have to provide him/her the script to fix your data.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454762 is a reply to message #454527]

Fri, 07 May 2010 05:23

Ravin_C
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ok, do you know the SELECT then?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454765 is a reply to message #454762]

Fri, 07 May 2010 05:50

Michel Cadot
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I don't know and no one can know here but you.
It YOUR tables and YOUR data.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454768 is a reply to message #454527]

Fri, 07 May 2010 05:57

Ravin_C
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ok, thanks for your help Smile

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454777 is a reply to message #454768]

Fri, 07 May 2010 06:40

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You'll probably want to use the ascii function to find the foreign characters, but it's going to be slow.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454786 is a reply to message #454527]

Fri, 07 May 2010 07:35

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ok, thanks.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454788 is a reply to message #454777]

Fri, 07 May 2010 07:41

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And even then, the ASCII code could be correct for a character set and not for the other, the character should been converted and then is a valid one but not correct one for the data, and so on.

For instance, if I import "é" in a US7ASCII database it is converted to "e" but not all "e" comes from an "é".

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Michel

[Updated on: Fri, 07 May 2010 08:06]

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454791 is a reply to message #454788]

Fri, 07 May 2010 07:56

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In that case I assume you can't tell which data come from a foreign character once it's in the DB (assuming it got converted obviously)?

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454902 is a reply to message #454527]

Sat, 08 May 2010 06:34

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yep, absolutely correct, thats why i am trying to identify them to clean up.

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Re: Loading of foreign text [message #454921 is a reply to message #454902]

Sat, 08 May 2010 09:18

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Yes, there is no automatic methid just a manual one, row per row, and only those who know the data can do it.

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Michel

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