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| New, advanced hierarchy [message #323041] |
Tue, 27 May 2008 02:58  |
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Littlefoot
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I'm not quite sure whether to put this into the Community Hangout or Suggestions & Feedback forum, but OK - here it is; after all, it IS kind of a suggestion. Not that it matters much; Forum won't work better (or worse), but - as I have some time, let me express my thoughts.
Currently, we have three kinds of a status: Junior (<50 posts), Member (50 - 100 posts), Senior (> 100 posts). It is quite simple, no additional artificial intelligence deals with it.
Now, some people get confused. I've seen some newbies asking for help, thinking "oh, come on! You are a senior member, how come you don't know how to help me!". Also, I've seen some seniors saying "phew! You are a senior member, how can you ask something like that?"
It appears that number of messages isn't the very best way to distinguish newbies from more experienced users. Are these boundaries set too low? Newbies, for example, have zillion problems - most of their messages will be questions. It will take time until they are capable of answering other people's questions, and - at the same time - they might count a few hundreds of posts and still be ... well, newbies.
Therefore, I thought that we might modify this principle a little bit. I believe that distinguishing number of questions or answers is out of question; who's gonna do that? But, we might still rely on number of messages; only, include additional categories.
For example:
Number of messages Status
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0 - 20 baby
20 - 50 toddler
50 - 100 kindergarten child
100 - 200 pupil
200 - 500 student
500 - 1000 bachelor
1000 - 3000 assistant lecturer
3000 - 5000 docent
5000 - 10000 professor
10000 - academician
Or
0 - 50 novice
50 - 100 junior
100 - 500 apprentice
500 - 2000 journeyman
2000 - 7000 master
7000 - 15000 boss
15000 - Michel Cadot
Or even
0 - 50 associate
50 - 200 soldier
200 - 500 capo
500 - 2000 consigliere
2000 - 5000 underboss
5000 - 10000 boss
10000 - 30000 capo di tutti capi
30000 - Tony Soprano
So? What say you? Would you like to add your own categories? Please, do that! Mine are more or less for amusement, not real use. Not because I wouldn't want to fine grain "members" category - I just lack in English language skills which would allow me to do that.
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| Re: New, advanced hierarchy [message #323580 is a reply to message #323082] |
Wed, 28 May 2008 22:43  |
rleishman
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Any attempt to relate posting volmes to industry ability/experience is doomed. Such a system could only be supported by some sort of feedback mechanism (eg. post-level voting).
Response volumes only tell you something about the person's relative level of OraFAQ forum experience. In this way, Junior Member, Member, and Senior Member are accurate. They are poorly understood and sometimes mistaken for as analagous to industry expertise; that doesn't mean they are wrong.
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| Re: New, advanced hierarchy [message #323703 is a reply to message #323041] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 05:10 |
dr.s.raghunathan
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hi
i think, it would be much better if forum can adopt the counts of replies offered for member status..
periodically moderator can evaluate the quality replies and
and offer bonus plus or minus marks for promotion / demotion
of member status too...
repeated replies offered ( refer forum guide etc) may be ignored for counting replies at the time of evaluation or awarding the points to the member's status
since genuine member status can gain confidence amoung real answer seekers.
i strongly feel that everyone will be a newbie on one or many topics since subject knowledge is compared with ocean.
yours
dr.s.raghunathan
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| Re: New, advanced hierarchy [message #323717 is a reply to message #323580] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 05:43 |
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Littlefoot
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| rleishman wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 05:43 | Any attempt to relate posting volmes to industry ability/experience is doomed. Such a system could only be supported by some sort of feedback mechanism (eg. post-level voting).
Response volumes only tell you something about the person's relative level of OraFAQ forum experience. In this way, Junior Member, Member, and Senior Member are accurate. They are poorly understood and sometimes mistaken for as analagous to industry expertise; that doesn't mean they are wrong.
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Unfortunately (for the sake of my original idea), I have to agree with that. Thinking twice about the whole thing, it appears that "member title/status" is, actually, needless.
As I've already said, Forum won't work any better (or worse) so - we could kick that information out. Obviously, we are all "members" of the OraFAQ Forum, aren't we? What difference does it make if I'm just a "Member", while a little bit of fast typing in the Community Hangout promotes me to a "Senior Member" in a matter of hours?
(However, I like my mafia-style rating  )
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| Re: New, advanced hierarchy [message #323732 is a reply to message #323717] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 06:06 |
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Michel Cadot
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| Littlefoot wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 12:43 | Unfortunately (for the sake of my original idea), I have to agree with that. Thinking twice about the whole thing, it appears that "member title/status" is, actually, needless.
As I've already said, Forum won't work any better (or worse) so - we could kick that information out. Obviously, we are all "members" of the OraFAQ Forum, aren't we?
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I agree with that, maybe it might be said that a member is a moderator as this means something different than a number of posts.
Regards
Michel
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| Re: New, advanced hierarchy [message #323757 is a reply to message #323750] |
Thu, 29 May 2008 06:38 |
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Michel Cadot
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This is not what I meant.
I mean moderator status means "more" than a member in the sense can make more actions which may be useful for posters to know it, for example when they ask us to modify, move or delete their posts.
In addition, what you say is not true, you currently become moderator if 3 conditions are met (at least when I became one):
- you reach a number of posts
- you are asked by Frank if you want to be one. This means that Frank may don't ask you
- you answer you accept it (I remember Ana was not a moderator until last mid year, I think Ana felt in the category of not accepting it).
Regards
Michel
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