Re: informix market share

mjbox01_at_gmail.com wrote:
> RollForward Wizard wrote:

>> mjbox01_at_gmail.com wrote:
>>> RollForward Wizard wrote:
>>>> mjbox01_at_gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> RollForward Wizard wrote:
>>>>>> mjbox01_at_gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> RollForward Wizard wrote:
>>>>>> But back to my original point, you won't convince me that "Oracle is
>>>>>> as easy to use as DB2".  I just won't believe it.
>>>>> I was not trying to convince you, just pointing out that your view of
>>>>> ease of use is not universal and is therefore a meaningless point to
>>>>> raise. No matter how many times and ways you say it or the number of
>>>>> capital letters you use.
>>>>>
>>>> It's not meaningless, obviously you found something about it that had
>>>> meaning.
>>> I pointed out that I found your post to be meaningless, because
>>> surprise, I found it meaningless.
>>>
>>> Obviously you are wrong again.
>>>
>> But how could I be wrong about something if there was no meaning to
>> what I said?  It would just be meaningless, not wrong.  If it was wrong,
>> then it would have meaning.  I don't mean to argue the point with you
>> since you obviously think I'm wrong--er was it meaningless--now I'm
>> confused!  Is that how Oracle people think?  Gosh, I wouldn't want to
>> be around those kind of people they are too confusing!

I didn't say Oracle has no technical merit. I merely pointed out that on its own merits, for the money, it is not as good as it could or should be. This can be qualified by simply comparing it to comparable products.

I also pointed out that many in your camp are enamored with the glow of Oracle marketing. It can be blinding to be too closely aligned with one product, believe me, it can really be debilitating. Which means I'm open to hearing about Oracle as a software product, but I'm just not so confident that it will be easy to use, nor do I believe for the time and money that I would invest in it that it would be worth the trouble when, due to my sheer laziness, I could use something else that would do the job the same or better. Honestly, I'm just interested in making money, not spending a lot of time or money on software I don't need. Oracle makes me tired too.

> The only reason you gave for this was that you find it harder to learn
> than other databases. Obviously this is only one viewpoint, as I for
> example have another, and some people even prefer Pick for exactly the
> same reason. This is the meaningless part.
>

But to say it's meaningless negates even your own statements, is this what you really want? Reason has meaning inherently, so you contradict yourself, I'd hate to see that happen intentionally. Maybe we could work on leaving out the meaninglessness part in our next session.

> You were then wrong about me not finding your opinions meaningless in
> the context of a technical discussion, because I do. I am not going to
> attempt to change your mind on this, and despite judicious use of
> capital letters you won't change mine.
>
> Is this still too difficult?
>

Hmmmm... I'll have to get back with you I'm still thinking. I wasn't aware of a few things--I have to process this and really really think hard now. It might put me to sleep so be prepared for that. Received on Tue Nov 29 2005 - 22:39:41 CST