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Re: Restoring & recovering in NOARCHIVELOG

From: Jim Kennedy <kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_no_spam.comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:35:45 GMT
Message-ID: <5fbUa.127226$GL4.33083@rwcrnsc53>


While this is true why not just put the thing in archive log mode. It is easier than doing all this.(posting on the group etc.) Jim

"Quarkman" <quarkman_at_myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:oprsu9y6j9r9lm4d_at_haydn...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:03:29 +0100, Norman Dunbar
<Norman.Dunbar_at_lfs.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Morning (just) Carlos,
> >
> > if you are not running in ARCHIVELOG then your recovery options are
> > simple - you recover to the last dump.
>
>
>
> Not true Norman.
>
> Recovery means replay redo -and it doesn't matter where that redo comes
> from. If the online logs are huge enough, then you can restore an
extremely
> old database and play it forward just by using the online logs. The degree
> to which you can recover in such a scenario is limited only by the size of
> the online logs.
>
> Make 'em big enough to hold a weeks' redo, and you can recover from last
> week's cold backup. Completely.
>
> Not that this is a reliable way to run a business, mind you.
>
> ~QM
>
>
>
>
> > This includes datafiles,
> > controlfiles and on-line redolog files. This means that your redo
> > information is all up to date as of the time you closed the database to
> > take the dump.
> >
> > So, you have no chance of rolling forward/recovering the days work,
> > because you won't be able (I'm certain, but untested) to startup the
> > database with the redologs from today with the backups of yesterdays
> > control and datafiles. (Unless a resetlogs is involved somewhere along
> > the line - which will negate any possibility of recvovering from those
> > logfiles.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Norman.
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> > Norman Dunbar
> > Database/Unix administrator
> > Lynx Financial Systems Ltd.
> > mailto:Norman.Dunbar_at_LFS.co.uk
> > Tel: 0113 289 6265
> > Fax: 0113 289 3146
> > URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: miotromailcarlos_at_netscape.net (Carlos)
> > [mailto:miotromailcarlos_at_netscape.net]
> > Posted At: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:26 AM
> > Posted To: server
> > Conversation: Restoring & recovering in NOARCHIVELOG
> > Subject: Restoring & recovering in NOARCHIVELOG
> >
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > We are working with Oracle 8.1.6 on Win NT in a production environment
> > (don't blame me, It's heritage). The Database archiving mode is
> > NOARCHIVELOG (again don't blame me). We do whole database backups
> > daily al the end of the day (It's not a 24/7 DB). Due to requisites,
> > we must be able to restore the status that the DB had at the beginning
> > of the day (start) in order to reprocess (by external processes) all
> > the activity of the day if necessary (this is easily done by restoring
> > the last-night backup). But I'm wondering about recovering the DB if a
> > HW problem occurs. Here is where my question comes out: If we use redo
> > log files large enough to hold all the redo activities of a whole day
> > we could not only restore the 'last-night cold backup' in order to
> > reprocess, but recover the DB status to the instant before a HW
> > failure as well by using the redo log files to roll forward.
> > Am I right?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Carlos.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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