Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

Hey Guys

I am amused that you are outraged at OCP being unproctored who cares atleast Oracle is doing such a decent job any Oracle software that you want is available for trial free of cost, documentation is available free of cost. What else can somebody who as brains ask for we are getting free software without time limits and free documentation which is excellent from Oracle this is nothing to crib about.

My boss sponsored me to go and write SAP certification guess I went to the local SAP office 3 times the Certification program software is all in Visual Basic and Active X controls would burst and blow on my face and never worked 3 times and my blood pressure was going through the roof the exam certification is $600 the certification is worth a toilet paper. The SAP guy told me everytime the certification software blew up that he as to contact Germany and get a fix and exam was postponed by 2 to 3 weeks. Finally when the exam came it was unproctored I heard usually it is proctored since the software blew up so many times the examiner/supervisor perhaps did not have the confidence to show up may be he was sure it would not work again. Companies think they can reward employees by sending to this kind of useless certification. On oracle I can buy electronic course materials from Oracle and give the exams for SAP my company paid for each course around more than $3500 for a course of 3 - 5 days the courses were so crap the material was absolute nonsense the documentation of SAP even their developers cannot follow it so bad, still they do not have a concept of electronic course material. The company refuses to give any documentation this is SAP.Their technology and the culture sucks. I think we must be happy to work with a company like Oracle, believe me after going through the SAP saga now I realise what Oracle as a company is they tell developers on Technet on new features of the product and free seminars, I still thank Oracle I viewed all Oracle world sessions on the Net I cannot dream SAP will come to this stage in another 4 years. If you want to know anything from SAP you have to pay them a fortune I heard the rate is $400/hour to a SAP consultant to know the new features of the product. And don't think that these people know a lot they have difficulty even in using Windows or MS OFfice proficiently !!!

I don't think never ever in the history of Oracle despite being so large they have ripped customers like this. Siebel is no exception they have the same culture as SAP. Go and find any Siebel CRM documentation on a public web site you can find Oracle.

Come on cheer up look at the other side of the field how vendors are skinning customers why complain on poor Oracle they are now perhaps experimenting a honour system now. We must that Oracle to what kind of a company they are.

Simon

"Mark Rittman" <markrittman_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3e0e07d5$0$21127$fa0fcedb_at_lovejoy.zen.co.uk>...
> Yes, it is unproctored. I've taken it and it is done over the internet, with
> no checking of identity or whether you 'cheat' or not.
>
> However - it's only one of four exams, and you won't pass the others if you
> had to cheat on the first. As just one of four exams, just passing this
> won't get you anywhere, and it's probably just a marketing ploy by Oracle to
> get you to take the first of the exams, in an easy environment, with the
> hope being that you'll then go on to do the rest of them.
>
> What's potentially more interesting about the 9i DBA OCP is that you now
> have to take at least one Oracle University course (9i SQL, DBA Fundamentals
> I and II, Tuning etc) to qualify for the OCP. This will no doubt be a nice
> earner for Oracle.
>
> Mark Rittman
>
> http://www.rittman.org
>
>
> "Don Burleson" <don_at_burleson.cc> wrote in message
> news:998d28f7.0212250820.5cc2fb6_at_posting.google.com...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have heard a rumor that the Oracle9i OCP SQL exam is unproctored:
> >
> > "The new exam is un-proctored, meaning that you can take the exam
> > unsupervised at your own location. If you do not have good internet
> > access, proctored exams are delivered in a secure testing environment,
> > at an Oracle University Training Center or Authorized Prometric
> > Testing Center."
> >
> > Because there is no guarantee that the person taking the exam is the
> > same person who registered for the exam, many DBAs feel that this
> > practice degrades the value of Oracle certification, and makes it even
> > more worthless than before.
> >
> > Comments?
Received on Mon Dec 30 2002 - 06:18:18 CST