Re: Oracle DB performance tuning training

From: raza siddiqui <raza.siddiqui_at_oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:16:33 -0700
Message-ID: <55D77911.70308_at_oracle.com>



Though we don't want to get into a shouting match, but I'd prefer to frame the situation as follows:

if you have access to an electric and manual drill / screwdriver etc, which one are you going to pickup and use ?

Yes - there is a valid argument for understanding what is being done and why, but at the end of the day, your time actually belongs to the organization paying for your time. They'd rather have you complete the task expeditiously, than satisfying your ego because you typed the command longhand, rather have a tool generate it for you.

Another key example.

You need to recover your crashed database. RMAN will require minimum of 3 commands - and it'll get it done right, whereas figuring-out indvidual commands, and correct sequence to issue them...well you can explain the mess to your boss.

There is a business reason why tools are created. Unless you want to work for yourself..your choice is what serves your employers interests first and foremost.

My $0.02

On 8/21/2015 11:32 AM, Stefan Koehler wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I teach the Oracle University classes and yes, much of the material is focused on the tools (with a heavy focus on Enterprise Manager and Sql
>> Developer) developed by Oracle. Unless your job consists only of performance tuning and you have lots of spare time to do everything manually, using
>> the tools for as much as possible is a good and necessary thing.
> Sorry, but i totally disagree in this point. I regularly see how these fency tools are used in the field and how the data is interpreted in relation
> to the performance issue. It is not a question of doing things manually or the tools itself. It is a question of the methodology and understanding
> (the source of) the data in relation to the issue.
>
> This is one of the main reasons for me to suggest the class by Method-R, Cary Millsap. Afterwards you know what performance is about and how to
> collect, process and interpret the performance data correctly.
>
> Best Regards
> Stefan Koehler
>
> Freelance Oracle performance consultant and researcher
> Homepage: http://www.soocs.de
> Twitter: _at_OracleSK
>
>> Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm_at_gmail.com> hat am 21. August 2015 um 19:55 geschrieben:
>>
>> Deborah,
>>
>> Oracle Database Performance Tuning is a large topic and only so much can be covered in a 2-5 day course. What you want to learn and how deep you
>> want to go will have a large influence on the course you will want to take.
>>
>> Many of us on this list are instructors and we all have different ways of teaching the material with varying levels of experience. In my opinion,
>> your instructor will have the biggest influence on the volume and value of the information you retain.
>>
>> I teach the Oracle University classes and yes, much of the material is focused on the tools (with a heavy focus on Enterprise Manager and Sql
>> Developer) developed by Oracle. Unless your job consists only of performance tuning and you have lots of spare time to do everything manually, using
>> the tools for as much as possible is a good and necessary thing.
>>
>> When I teach classes, I try to engage the students as much as possible and adapt the material to their environment and how they learn best. Not all
>> instructors are able or willing to do this so it is very advantageous for you to know who your instructor will be, the knowledge and experience
>> level of that instructor, and the previous experience of students that have taken classes taught by that instructor.
>>
>> Seth Miller
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