Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices

is it a long way out? I was having the discussion with a team mate this morning after I read the article on metalink. If it is such a small thing, why announce it so far out? Is Oracle prepping customers well in advance of the desupport (couldn't find any other 12g references on a quick metalink search) to give them time to prepare for this?

Is 11gR2 going to be announced at OOW this year?

Bradd Piontek
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On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, jason arneil <jason.arneil_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, I don't know about pushing OCFS/OCFS2, I think ASM is where the big
> push from oracle is.
>
> You are right, about this chicken and egg syndrome, but 12g is a LONG way
> out.
>
> We are still waiting 11gR2, right?
>
> jason.
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> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think storing the OCR and voting disks in ASM would be an issue,
>> as ASM is just another cluster resource and is generally brought up by ASM.
>> My guess is they'll be pushing the use of OCFS/OCFS2 a bit more.
>>
>> Bradd Piontek
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>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Zito <mzito_at_gridapp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We were discussing this over here, and the big question we came up with
>>> is:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Does this mean that simply raw devices a la old school Red Hat
>>> (/dev/raw/raw1) are desupported, or that all character/non-buffered IO
>>> devices are desupported (a la /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s2 or /dev/sda2 with
>>> O_DIRECT)?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the former, it's a non-issue for most environments, if it's the
>>> latter, it opens up a host of questions around what will be supported.
>>> Effectively, it requires that people have a clustered filesystem to use, or
>>> somehow Oracle jobbies up ASM such that you can put OCR and voting
>>> internally and making ASM a dependency for CRS to run.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Redhat RHEL 6 will also NOT support raw device.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 8/7/08, Hemant K Chitale <hkchital_at_singnet.com.sg>* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Hemant K Chitale <hkchital_at_singnet.com.sg>
>>> Subject: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices
>>> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
>>> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:02 AM
>>>
>>> For those using Raw Devices (wether for Redo Logs in non-RAC or for
>>>
>>> Database Files as well in RAC),
>>>
>>> see MetaLink Note#578455.1 "Announcement of De-Support of RAW
>>>
>>> devices in Release 12G "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hemant K Chitale
>>> http://hemantoracledba.blogspot.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> "A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a
>>>
>>> 'Yes'
>>>
>>> merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
>>>
>>> Mohandas Gandhi
>>>
>>> Quotes
>>>
>>> : http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mohandas_gandhi.html
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