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Re: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

From: Akshay Kumar <akshay349_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:44:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D9F93.20031215124425@fatcity.com>


What were you expected to do in the final exam ? ----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:59 AM

> how many people are actually OCMs? and those of you that are, has it
helped you in getting work?
> >
> > From: "Richard Foote" <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com>
> > Date: 2003/12/12 Fri AM 07:54:26 EST
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Subject: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > That's all very interesting.
> >
> > The various press releases at the time (e.g.
> > http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the "6
best
> > Oracle experts in the world" were handed these prestigious awards. Even
the
> > TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed to Mr
Niemiec.
> >
> > If he indeed actually took and passed the practical exam in person, and
if
> > obtaining OCM status is as prestigious as the marketing makes it out to
be,
> > then I would recommend Mr Niemiec perhaps promote his "hands-on"
involvement
> > a little more (rather than the handed hands-off bit) as this I'm sure
all
> > comes as news to many.
> >
> > It's actually a very brave thing to have done when you think about it.
It's
> > a little bit like being given a brand new car as a present and saying
"oh no
> > no, I want to prove I can drive it first". It's all great if you pass
the
> > driving test but if you were to fail, boy, would you look silly holding
> > those car keys ;)
> >
> > Did he have any such reservations ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:29 AM
> >
> >
> > > As I recall Rich talking about it, he did indeed take the exam. It was
not
> > > just "handed" to him.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Sent: 12/11/2003 3:59 PM
> > >
> > > you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was just
handed
> > > to
> > > him? who is jeremiah wilton?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:09 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > > IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the others on
> > > > your list aren't prepared to waste their time attending OCP exams
and
> > > > courses just so they can get the OCM. :)
> > > >
> > > > There were some honorary OCM's announced when the program first
> > > started
> > > > (OOW2002?). From memory, Rich Niemic and Jeremiah Wilton are the
only
> > > > names that spring to mind from that group.
> > > >
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
> > > >
> > > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Mladen Gogala
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:54 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > > I know only of Pete Sharman. Who are other Oracle Certified Masters
on
> > > > this group? I suspect Tanel to be one, as well as Steve Adams, Cary
> > > > Millsap,
> > > > Mogens Norgaard, Anjo Kolk, Wolfgang Breitling, Gaja V. and Kirti
> > > > Deshpande.
> > > > Am I correct?
> > > >
> > > > Mladen Gogala
> > > > Oracle DBA
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> > > > Author: Mladen Gogala
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