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RE: 3rd Party Oracle Licenses

From: Goulet, Dick <DGoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:04:26 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D98FC.20031211090426@fatcity.com>


Rule of thumb, NEVER trust the third party vendor to have it right. Call YOUR Oracle sales rep & get his/her advice. We've had an application sold to us "with Oracle licenses" when the third party vendor was not licensed by Oracle to do so. Mind you as long as the contract between you and the third party vendor states that they are selling you a database license Oracle is nice about things. But still it can get sticky!!!

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Our apps that use Oracle come with an "Application license". By the terms of this license, we get to use that Oracle DB for that app and that app alone. The DB support comes from the app vendor and not Oracle. Not feeling particularly comfortable with this arrangement, we purchased separate Oracle licenses in order to get "Silver support" directly from Oracle, as I've yet to meet a vendor who had a grip on the DBs they sell with their product.

Then again, these were "network concurrent user" licenses, which unfortunately no longer exist. Perhaps a low-end 5-user named license would work for you.

HTH! GL! :) Rich

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
rjesse_at_qtiworld.com                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA


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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

We are purchasing a software package from a vendor. The vendor states that the package includes sufficient Oracle licenses. Since I'm supposed to keep on top of our licensing costs, I'm trying to make sure that there are no surprises down the road - such as additional Oracle support fees or Oracle claiming that we don't have this new box licensed, etc. How can the vendor prove that they are providing a license? When I asked them for some type of proof, they forward the OLSA to me, which is basically generic - it doesn't tell me if the license is SE, EE, SE One, perpertual, term, CPU, Named User, etc. Any thoughts or do I just take their word for it?

Thanks,
Jay
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