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RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

From: Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:26 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D9778.20031210192926@fatcity.com>


Robert, Robert, Robert, when will you ever learn? You've been listening to the marketing people again. :)

The whole goal behind this part of the release is not to make the database look easy to manage (which is good because I've never thought it WAS difficult to manage!) It's for those lower end customers who may not have the requirement for a full-time DBA. The idea is to set as few parameters as needed by having sensible defaults (whether they ARE sensible or not is a separate argument), while still having the full power and flexibility of all the other parameters for those lucky DBA's who have more complex systems to manage. Make more sense?

I can see I'm gonna have to keep a VERY close eye on you if we ever get around to writing our 10g book! :)

Pete

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."

Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

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Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

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Freeman Robert - IL
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L d

>> Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with >> them other than at database create time.

Shhhhhh.... Oracle thinks this is a marketing coup.... They want to make the
database look easy to manage...

"Parameters? Ha, you only need configure a few basic parameters and the database will take care of itself."

WHEN PIGS FLY.... This just speaks to the general management desire to push costs down stream....

Robert  

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 5:24 PM
dc_histogram_defs)

Much seems to be made of this 'less than 30 init parameter to tune'.

Who really spends much time doing that anyway?

If you do, you're probably going after the wrong end of a problem.

Doesn't matter if there's 30 or 300, you don't usually mess with them other than at database create time.

Jared

        "Tanel Poder" <tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee> Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com

 12/10/2003 01:34 PM
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> Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning
problem
> that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the
new
> features.

Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not
the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my presentations from:

http://integrid.info/Poder_10g_New_Features.ppt

Tanel.

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