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Re: Documenting databases

From: <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:24:34 -0800
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Indeed, my todo list includes an item for automating RDA on several servers.



The problem is, that RDA is rather difficult to automate, at least on Windoze.



Jared















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Don't know if this has been mentioned or if it does enough of what you're 

looking for but you can pick up something called "RDA" (remote diagnostic 

agent) from Oracle that'll give you an overview of OS setup, Network, 

performance (very high level), and RDBMS info.  And the result is web-a-fied 

which might please your manager. I forget whether I found this in metalink or 

technet...



Kip





|The internal stuff can be documented with OraSnap.



|Just google for it.  It's free, detailed, and easy to setup and automate.



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|Dan,



|    That's a good idea for documenting structures inside the database.

|However, my database manager wants more high level info:  database name /

|host, oracle version, listeners, applications that use it, cron job

|descriptions and times, main schemas and what they are used for, lists of

|developers names that access the databse, etc...



|Alan







  

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|On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 alan.aschenbrenner@ihs.com wrote:



|>     Recently our database manager has asked us to do the unthinkable....

|> document our databases!  To make matters worse, and without our input,

|he

|> went ahead and created a schema and put it in an Access database (using

|> tables to make it look like a speadsheet).  Either we use his idea or

|come

|> up with something else.

|>     So, I thought I'd ask everyone on the list how you do it.  Text

|files?

|> In a database (oracle, or other)?   Spreadsheets?  What are the pros and

|> cons?  Etc....

|>



|How about in each database itself.



|COMMENT ON TABLE|COLUMN tab|tab.col IS '...'



|comes to mind. It's simplistic, yes, but at least you don't have to

|remember where you put your documentation...



|HTH,



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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The internal stuff can be documented with OraSnap.</font>

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just google for it. &nbsp;It's free, detailed, and easy to setup and automate.</font>

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Dan,<br>

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 &nbsp; &nbsp;That's a good idea for documenting structures inside the database.<br>

However, my database manager wants more high level info: &nbsp;database name /<br>

host, oracle version, listeners, applications that use it, cron job<br>

descriptions and times, main schemas and what they are used for, lists of<br>

developers names that access the databse, etc...<br>

<br>

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On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 alan.aschenbrenner@ihs.com wrote:<br>

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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Recently our database manager has asked us to do the unthinkable....<br>

&gt; document our databases! &nbsp;To make matters worse, and without our input, he<br>

&gt; went ahead and created a schema and put it in an Access database (using<br>

&gt; tables to make it look like a speadsheet). &nbsp;Either we use his idea or<br>

come<br>

&gt; up with something else.<br>

&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; So, I thought I'd ask everyone on the list how you do it. &nbsp;Text<br>

files?<br>

&gt; In a database (oracle, or other)? &nbsp; Spreadsheets? &nbsp;What are the pros and<br>

&gt; cons? &nbsp;Etc....<br>

&gt;<br>

<br>

How about in each database itself.<br>

<br>

COMMENT ON TABLE|COLUMN tab|tab.col IS '...'<br>

<br>

comes to mind. It's simplistic, yes, but at least you don't have to<br>

remember where you put your documentation...<br>

<br>

HTH,<br>

<br>

-- Dan<br>

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 &nbsp; Daniel Hanks - Systems/Database Administrator<br>

 &nbsp; About Inc., Web Services Division<br>

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