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Re: Re: index full scan over an index fast full scan in an analytic function?

From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:49:32 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D4355.20031024044932@fatcity.com>


i thought full scan does 1 block at a time and fast full scan does your multiblock_read_count?
>
> From: Mladen Gogala <mgogala_at_adelphia.net>
> Date: 2003/10/23 Thu PM 11:34:25 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: Re: index full scan over an index fast full scan in an analytic function?
>
> B*tree indexes are ALWAY ordered. That's the way they're created and searched.
> I don't know the difference between full index scan and fast full index scan.
> I know that the latter is used when the tble rows are not needed. Sounds like
> both methods are reading all leaf blocks, from start to finish, using
> multiblock read. I am not aware of any difference between the two methods.
> This sounds like a question for asktom or ixora (Tom Kyte or Steve Adams).
> Wolfgang Breitling and J. Lewis might also know.
>
> On 2003.10.23 23:14, Larry Elkins wrote:
> > Because when doing an index range scan things are read ordered? Very
> > different from an index fast full scan where blocks are simply grabbed where
> > they might lie?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Larry G. Elkins
> > The Elkins Organization Inc.
> > elkinsl_at_flash.net
> > 214.954.1781
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
> > > Ryan
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:34 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Re: index full scan over an index fast full scan in an analytic
> > > function?
> > >
> > >
> > > why would you not need a sort with a full index scan and need one with a
> > > fast full scan?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:19 PM
> > > function?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Possibly to avoid a sort operation (assuming that you might be
> > > able to get
> > > > away with a NOSORT when doing the full index scan)? It might be deciding
> > > > that the benefit of the multi-block reads for the fast full
> > > scan are more
> > > > than offset by the sort operation that would be needed (and might not be
> > > > needed when doing the full index scan).
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Larry G. Elkins
> > > > The Elkins Organization Inc.
> > > > elkinsl_at_flash.net
> > > > 214.954.1781
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > > rgaffuri_at_cox.net
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:39 PM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > > Subject: Re: index full scan over an index fast full scan in
> > > an analytic
> > > > > function?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i cant attach the 10053 trace. it has proprietary info. There
> > > > > isnt much in analytic explain plan either.
> > > > >
> > > > > does anyone know in general why a full scan would be faster than
> > > > > a fast full scan?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
> > > > > > Date: 2003/10/23 Thu PM 03:09:26 EDT
> > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > > Subject: index full scan over an index fast full scan in an
> > > > > analytic function?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an index on the two columns used in this query. Why
> > > > > would the optimizer choose an index full scan over an index fast
> > > > > full scan?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My question isnt why an index is used, but the type of index scan?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > select *
> > > > > > from (select col1, col2,
> > > > > > dense_rank()
> > > > > > over (partition by col1
> > > > > > order by col2 desc)tab
> > > > > > from mytable)
> > > > > > where tab = 1
> > > > > >
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