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Re: Estimating space needed for UNDO tablespaces

From: Daniel Fink <Daniel.Fink_at_Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:24:41 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D1364.20030926142441@fatcity.com>


That sounds very reasonable. You can check that number against the values in v$undostat as it runs. Remember, UNDO_RETENTION is not guaranteed. If the space is needed by another segment, it may be taken even if the expire time has not been reached.

Daniel

Thomas Jeff wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Dan.
>
> Would you suggest setting UNDO_RETENTION to roughly the length of time of
> the longest
> running job in the database? For example, in our DW, our BI analysts tell
> me that their
> longest batch run is about 1 hr 45 minutes. My uneducated guess is to
> accordingly
> set the parameter to approx 2 hours.
>
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>
> That is a good place to start. You might consider adding a little if you
> have many concurrent transactions or want to increase the undo_retention
> to a high number. Once you are using AUM, keep a close eye on
> v$undostat, though there are some known issues with it not populating
> properly, keep an eye on the begin_time and end_time. However, for
> estimation purposes it should work.
>
> Daniel Fink
>
> Thomas Jeff wrote:
>
> > I'm beginning the process of converting over to automatic
> > undo management. I'm wondering as to exactly how large to
> > initially build the UNDO tablespace. Make it roughly
> > the same size as the sum of the current rollback
> > tablespaces? Or has your experience been different,
> > i.e., you've found you've generally needed more or less
> > space with respect to the previous allocation for rollback
> > segments (manual undo)?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Jeffery D Thomas
> > DBA
> > Thomson Information Services
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> > Email: jeff.thomas_at_thomson.net
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