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RE: RE: guidance

From: Cary Millsap <cary.millsap_at_hotsos.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:39:46 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D1315.20030926083946@fatcity.com>


Oh, please don't get me wrong: grades are important!

My point is that there's getting perfect grades, and there's knowing what's going on. And sometimes they're different. I believe you're better off with both credentials *and* actual horsepower than with just one or the other.

I don't consider that a cynical view, just a practical one.

Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:

- Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney
- Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas
- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...


-----Original Message-----
rgaffuri_at_cox.net
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

yeah but alot of employers like to see the certifications. so for most of us who are not at the point in our career as some of the senior guys here, we have to do it. Ive noticed that you can get more done if your certified too. Adds credibility to what you say. Especially with management.

btw, you dont need to pay for the expensive tuning course. just buy one exam book and read the docs. then practice at home and ask questions on the web.

course is a waste of money.
>
> From: "Cary Millsap" <cary.millsap_at_hotsos.com>
> Date: 2003/09/26 Fri AM 11:29:40 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: RE: guidance
>
> How can I say this...
>
> "Don't confuse learning how to pass the performance tuning exam with
> learning how to make systems faster."
>
> I'll offer you my Dad's advice on this, which he reiterated frequently
> on our 30-minute drives to and from school:
>
> "There are two answers to every question your teachers will ask you
> while you're in school. There's the correct answer, and there's the
> answer that the teacher wants. I expect you to know them both."
>
>
> Cary Millsap
> Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
> http://www.hotsos.com
>
> Upcoming events:
> - Performance Diagnosis 101: 10/28 Phoenix, 11/19 Sydney
> - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas
> - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> bulbultyagi_at_now-india.net.in
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Thanks O'mladen one.
> No really, thanks , good advice. I am really going hyper about
> performance
> tuning exam. The course is so vast, and the exam so expensive.
> Honestly how can you test a newbie in performance tuning ? shouldn't
it
> be
> a part of ocm ?
> Instead of putting that riduculous condition of attending Oracle
classes
> to
> give ocp they should see how much experience you have before allowing
> you to
> appear for performance tuning exam. I would be much more prepared for
> the
> exam if I had apprenticed under you for a while.
> Look at me I haven't even read Cary's book ( wait a minute , neither
> have
> many people on this list , thanks to amazon)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > Realx and feel the force. Only if you open your mind, you can master
> the
> > force.
> >
> > --
> > Mladen Gogala
> > Oracle DBA
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> > > Subject: guidance
> > >
> > >
> > > List , I am planning to give my 9i performance tuning exam on
> > > the first . Any advice you all want to give me ? Pretty
> > > nervous about it. Sure would appreciate your guidance. ........
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