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.....note to self....don't visit Austin during the months of May thru
August.
 

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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Nope. It means that it's hot as heck and humid as heck and it makes you
wonder why did you turn down
that job offer in Anchorage.
 
 
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 


-----Original Message-----
Mercadante, Thomas F
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


ummm.. if it's 100% humidity, doesn't that mean it's raining ..   or misting
.  or something?
 
I can't imagine it being 100degrees and raining.
 

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dry heat??
 
Not sure about Austin, but I have some co-workers in Dallas where they say
it's 100x100: 100 degrees with 100% humidity.......
greg

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I really like that "no DBA left behind" program of yours, but TX is too hot
for me. I know it's a dry heat
but nevertheless, I do prefer colder climate. You can keep the Dixie Chicks.
 
 
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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 


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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



David forgot to mention a couple of things about working for AISD: 
- We don't wear neckties (well, David does sometimes). 
- We get 23 paid Holidays (how does 2 weeks off for Christmas and a week off
for Spring Break sound?). 
- We have an unlimited site license for Oracle EE.  I slap databases out
there as needed without a second thought. 
- Before he became MIS Director, David was an Oracle DBA and a UNIX Sys
Admin before that, so he really understands the technology and the
challenges. 
- Did I mention that we don't wear neckties? 

AISD's infrastructure is truly awesome.  The fiber WAN allows our
widely-scattered users to connect dependably to our databases and me to push
tons of data around quickly and reliably.  All the UNIX  and other servers
(not to mention our Users' PCs) are either brand new or about 3 years or
less old.  The oldest Oracle databases we have are 8.1.7.0.0 and we've
already started upgrading to 9.2.0.4.0.  We'll be moving our only Win2k
database to HP-UX in the next few months.  All the other DBs are already on
either HP-UX or Linux. 

We've got a couple of less-than-perfect 3rd Party COTS applications for
Financials and Student Information, but we're rapidly applying Oracle
features to improve them and add functionality their producers never even
thought of, as well as providing Web-enabled access to our thousands of AISD
users and the Community at large.  Our Developers have hardly a Duh(veloper)
among them and their supervisor is top-notch, too.  An all-round great bunch
of folks to work with District-wide. 

I've been with AISD for 15 months - my first Public Sector gig ever - and
I'm loving it.  Also, with the Economy the way it is (and will be for a
while to come), this Public Sector organization is very competitive in
salary and benefits with the Private Sector.  I know, I shopped around and
got other offers before coming here. 

Oh, and Austin being the "Live Music Capital of the World" doesn't hurt,
either.  And I certainly don't want to forget the part about not having to
wear a necktie!

Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator
Austin Independent School District
Austin, Texas
512.414.9715 (wk)
512.935.5929 (pager, 5129355929@page.metrocall.com)
JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu




	DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu 
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09/23/2003 03:39 PM 
Please respond to ORACLE-L 


        
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        Subject:        DBA needed in Austin, TX	



With permission from Jared:

'Needed' is kind of strong.  We've got a position open, but we're not real
needy folks.  We're a school district.  The 37th (depending on the day of
the week) largest in the United States.  If we were a business, it'd be
pretty good-sized.  Our annual operating budget is 730 million dollars plus
(of which MIS gets a really small, tiny, little itty bit), we have 15,000
employees, 130 branch offices, our own police force and post office.  We
fix 150,000 meals a day and need to collect cash or validate for every
person through the cafeterias.  We're moving from a mainframe environment
to client-server computing with an Oracle back-end running on HPUX and
Linux for both our student data and ERP systems. It's a pretty dynamic
shop.  We've got 40 or so people (depending on the day of the week) split
into three areas, business systems, student systems and programming.  We
don't do the network piece, but that's solid - switched gigabit ethernet
running on over 300 miles of fiber with 100MB to the desktop.

I don't hire or set salaries.  HR does that.  I only recommend.  The salary
for this position will be somewhere between $60K and $80K depending on
experience (and whatever bizarre decisions are reached by the compensation
analyst).

You've got to be REAL strong in backup and recovery.  And curious.  We're
planning to go where no school district (or very few) has gone before.
Your assistance will be vital in making the investment Austin has made in
technology pay off.

If you've got any questions, please send me an email.  If you'd like to
apply, you can do so on-line at

http://www.austin.isd.tenet.edu/about/hr/search/index.phtml

Under 'classified' positions, see if you can find the DBA position.  If it
isn't there (depending on the day of the week), and you can't possibly
wait, apply for either the Programmer/Analyst or UNIX Admin position.  It
should be there sometime after 4pm CDT, or maybe tomorrow, or maybe not.
[We don't do the Internet piece - yet].


David A. Barbour
Director, Management Information Services
AISD

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<DIV><SPAN class=902120219-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>......note to self....don't visit Austin during the months of May thru 
August.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mladen Gogala 
  [mailto:mladen@wangtrading.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 25, 2003 
  1:50 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  RE: DBA needed in Austin, TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=615334716-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Nope. It means that it's hot as heck and humid as heck and it makes you 
  wonder why did you turn down</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=615334716-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>that 
  job offer in Anchorage.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=left>--<BR>Mladen Gogala<BR>Oracle DBA <BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    ml-errors@fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors@fatcity.com] <B>On Behalf Of 
    </B>Mercadante, Thomas F<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:45 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
    DBA needed in Austin, TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681333114-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2>ummm.. if it's 100% humidity, doesn't that mean it's raining .. 
    &nbsp; or misting ..&nbsp; or something?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681333114-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=681333114-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
    can't imagine it being 100degrees and raining.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Loughmiller, Greg 
      [mailto:Greg.Loughmiller@cingular.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 
      25, 2003 11:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list 
      ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DBA needed in Austin, 
      TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=991002214-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>dry heat??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=991002214-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=991002214-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>Not sure about Austin, but&nbsp;I have some co-workers in Dallas 
      where they say it's 100x100: 100 degrees with 100% 
      humidity.......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=991002214-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>greg</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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        <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mladen Gogala 
        [mailto:mladen@wangtrading.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 25, 
        2003 10:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list 
        ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: DBA needed in Austin, 
        TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=936130213-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>I really like that "no DBA left behind" program of yours, but TX 
        is too hot for me. I know it's a dry heat</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=936130213-25092003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
        size=2>but nevertheless, I do prefer colder climate. You can keep the 
        Dixie Chicks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV align=left>--<BR>Mladen Gogala<BR>Oracle DBA <BR></DIV>
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          face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
          ml-errors@fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors@fatcity.com] <B>On Behalf Of 
          </B>JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 
          September 24, 2003 11:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list 
          ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: DBA needed in Austin, 
          TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>David forgot 
          to mention a couple of things about working for AISD:</FONT> <BR><FONT 
          face=sans-serif size=2>- We don't wear neckties (well, David does 
          sometimes).</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>- We get 23 paid 
          Holidays (how does 2 weeks off for Christmas and a week off for Spring 
          Break sound?).</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>- We have an 
          unlimited site license for Oracle EE. &nbsp;I slap databases out there 
          as needed without a second thought.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
          size=2>- Before he became MIS Director, David was an Oracle DBA and a 
          UNIX Sys Admin before that, so he really understands the technology 
          and the challenges.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>- Did I 
          mention that we don't wear neckties?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT 
          face=sans-serif size=2>AISD's infrastructure is truly awesome. 
          &nbsp;The fiber WAN allows our widely-scattered users to connect 
          dependably to our databases and me to push tons of data around quickly 
          and reliably. &nbsp;All the UNIX &nbsp;and other servers (not to 
          mention our Users' PCs) are either brand new or about 3 years or less 
          old. &nbsp;The oldest Oracle databases we have are 8.1.7.0.0 and we've 
          already started upgrading to 9.2.0.4.0. &nbsp;We'll be moving our only 
          Win2k database to HP-UX in the next few months. &nbsp;All the other 
          DBs are already on either HP-UX or Linux.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT 
          face=sans-serif size=2>We've got a couple of less-than-perfect 3rd 
          Party COTS applications for Financials and Student Information, but 
          we're rapidly applying Oracle features to improve them and add 
          functionality their producers never even thought of, as well as 
          providing Web-enabled access to our thousands of AISD users and the 
          Community at large. &nbsp;Our Developers have hardly a Duh(veloper) 
          among them and their supervisor is top-notch, too. &nbsp;An all-round 
          great bunch of folks to work with District-wide.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT 
          face=sans-serif size=2>I've been with AISD for 15 months - my first 
          Public Sector gig ever - and I'm loving it. &nbsp;Also, with the 
          Economy the way it is (and will be for a while to come), this Public 
          Sector organization is very competitive in salary and benefits with 
          the Private Sector. &nbsp;I know, I shopped around and got other 
          offers before coming here.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif 
          size=2>Oh, and Austin being the "Live Music Capital of the World" 
          doesn't hurt, either. &nbsp;And I certainly don't want to forget the 
          part about not having to wear a necktie!<BR><BR>Jack C. 
          Applewhite<BR>Database Administrator<BR>Austin Independent School 
          District<BR>Austin, Texas<BR>512.414.9715 (wk)<BR>512.935.5929 (pager, 
          5129355929@page.metrocall.com)<BR>JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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              <TD><FONT face=sans-serif 
                size=1><B>DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu</B></FONT> <BR><FONT 
                face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com</FONT> 
                <P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>09/23/2003 03:39 PM</FONT> 
                <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Please respond to 
                ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR></P>
              <TD><FONT face=Arial size=1>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
                </FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
                &nbsp; To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Multiple recipients of 
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                &nbsp;DBA needed in Austin, 
          TX</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT 
          face="Courier New" size=2>With permission from Jared:<BR><BR>'Needed' 
          is kind of strong. &nbsp;We've got a position open, but we're not 
          real<BR>needy folks. &nbsp;We're a school district. &nbsp;The 37th 
          (depending on the day of<BR>the week) largest in the United States. 
          &nbsp;If we were a business, it'd be<BR>pretty good-sized. &nbsp;Our 
          annual operating budget is 730 million dollars plus<BR>(of which MIS 
          gets a really small, tiny, little itty bit), we have 
          15,000<BR>employees, 130 branch offices, our own police force and post 
          office. &nbsp;We<BR>fix 150,000 meals a day and need to collect cash 
          or validate for every<BR>person through the cafeterias. &nbsp;We're 
          moving from a mainframe environment<BR>to client-server computing with 
          an Oracle back-end running on HPUX and<BR>Linux for both our student 
          data and ERP systems. It's a pretty dynamic<BR>shop. &nbsp;We've got 
          40 or so people (depending on the day of the week) split<BR>into three 
          areas, business systems, student systems and programming. 
          &nbsp;We<BR>don't do the network piece, but that's solid - switched 
          gigabit ethernet<BR>running on over 300 miles of fiber with 100MB to 
          the desktop.<BR><BR>I don't hire or set salaries. &nbsp;HR does that. 
          &nbsp;I only recommend. &nbsp;The salary<BR>for this position will be 
          somewhere between $60K and $80K depending on<BR>experience (and 
          whatever bizarre decisions are reached by the 
          compensation<BR>analyst).<BR><BR>You've got to be REAL strong in 
          backup and recovery. &nbsp;And curious. &nbsp;We're<BR>planning to go 
          where no school district (or very few) has gone before.<BR>Your 
          assistance will be vital in making the investment Austin has made 
          in<BR>technology pay off.<BR><BR>If you've got any questions, please 
          send me an email. &nbsp;If you'd like to<BR>apply, you can do so 
          on-line 
          at<BR><BR>http://www.austin.isd.tenet.edu/about/hr/search/index.phtml<BR><BR>Under 
          'classified' positions, see if you can find the DBA position. &nbsp;If 
          it<BR>isn't there (depending on the day of the week), and you can't 
          possibly<BR>wait, apply for either the Programmer/Analyst or UNIX 
          Admin position. &nbsp;It<BR>should be there sometime after 4pm CDT, or 
          maybe tomorrow, or maybe not.<BR>[We don't do the Internet piece - 
          yet].<BR><BR><BR>David A. Barbour<BR>Director, Management Information 
          Services<BR>AISD<BR><BR>-- <BR>Author: <BR>&nbsp;INET: 
          DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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