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RE: BAARF

From: Matthew Zito <mzito_at_gridapp.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:39:40 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D1121.20030925113940@fatcity.com>

Put your redo logs on mirrored disks. If you've got a big array with lots of write cache, you don't even necessarily have to bother with striping across multiple disks. If you do want that, create a 0+1 plex across your disks and run it like that.

Thanks,
Matt

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Matthew Zito
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> Behalf Of Thomas Day
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:20 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: BAARF
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> And what do you suggest?
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> I would strongly advise against redo logs on RAID-0 with
> oracle duplexing. Different operating systems respond more or
> less gracefully to the vanishing of a storage device (which
> is the normal behavior of a failed disk on a RAID-0 set on a
> HW array). There's too many variables possible to list out
> the scenarios, but I would definitely definitely test failing
> a RAID-0 set under load before I would go live with redo logs
> on raid-0.
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> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> --
> Matthew Zito
> GridApp Systems
> Email: mzito_at_gridapp.com
> Cell: 646-220-3551
> Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359
> http://www.gridapp.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of Thomas Day
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:05 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: BAARF
> >
> >
> >
> > I would love to have a definitive site that I could send all RAID-F
> > advocates to where it would be laid out clearly, unambiguously, and
> > definitively what storage types should be used for what purpose.
> >
> > Redo logs on RAID 0 with Oracle duplexing (y/n)?
> > Rollback (or undo) ditto?
> > Write intensive tablespaces on RAID 1+0 (or should that be
> > 0+1)? Read intensive tablespaces on RAID ? (I guess 5 is OK
> > since it's cheaper than 1+0 and you won't have the write penalty)
> >
> > While we're at it could we blow up the OFA myth? Since you're
> > tablespaces are on datafiles that are on logical volumns
> that are on
> > physical devices which may contain one or many actual
> disks, does it
> > really make sense to worry (from a performance standpoint) about
> > separating tables and indexes into different tablespaces?
> >
> > We have killed the "everything in one extent" myth haven't we?
> > Everybody's comfortable with tables that have 100's of extents?
> >
> > And while we're at it, could we include the Oracle 9 multiple
> > blocksizes and how to use them. The best that I've seen is
> indexes in
> > big blocks, tables in small blocks --- uh, oh, time to
> separate tables
> > and indexes.
> >
> > Maybe we will never get rid of the OFA myth.
> >
> > Just venting.
> >
> > Tired of arguing in front of management with Oracle certified DBAs
> > that RAID 5 is not good, OFA is unnecessary, and uniform extents is
> > the only way to go. Looking for a big stick to catch their
> attention
> > with.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > --
> > Author: Thomas Day
> > INET: tday6_at_csc.com
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