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MessageHi!

I think putting your small tables to 2K block size is quite pointless =
(unless you have tens of thousands of these tables continously in buffer =
cache).

Tanel.

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  I have little bit experience on that. I am keeping indexes in 32K =
block  'cause Oracle access indexes sequentially and placing indexes in =
large block would help in reducing IO.  All the tables are in 8K block =
size but you can think about putting small tables in 2K or 4KB block =
size to better utilize your RAM. We are on AIX 5.1 , Oracle 9202.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mladen@wangtrading.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:05 AM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject: Multiple block sizes


    Does anybody have any experience with the multiple block sizes in =
the database? I'm about to reconfigure
    my database to have a tablespace with blocksize 16k in addition to =
the existing 8k tablespaces. Tables
    in this tablespace will be loaded weekly and read daily, frequently =
using full table scan (DW style reporting.
    I'm planning to have bitmap indexes and the rest of the DW arsenal). =
Does anybody have any negative experiences=20
    with that kind of stuff? It's 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3. Am I running into =
ora-7445 and ora-0600 type errors?=20

    --
    Mladen Gogala
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think putting your small tables to 2K =
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is quite pointless (unless you have tens&nbsp;of thousands of these =
tables=20
continously in buffer cache).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tanel.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Multiple block =
sizes</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D849574516-24092003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
  have little bit experience on that. I am keeping indexes in 32K =
block&nbsp;=20
  'cause Oracle access indexes sequentially and placing indexes in large =
block=20
  would help in reducing IO.&nbsp; All the tables are in 8K block size =
but=20
  you&nbsp;can&nbsp;think about putting small tables in 2K or 4KB block =
size to=20
  better utilize your RAM. We are on AIX 5.1 , Oracle =
9202.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mladen Gogala=20
    [mailto:mladen@wangtrading.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September =
24,=20
    2003 9:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list=20
    ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Multiple block =
sizes<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D491020714-24092003>Does anybody=20
    have any experience with the multiple block sizes in the database? =
I'm about=20
    to reconfigure</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D491020714-24092003>my =
database to=20
    have a tablespace with blocksize 16k in addition to the existing 8k=20
    tablespaces. Tables</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D491020714-24092003>in =
this=20
    tablespace will be loaded weekly and read daily, frequently using =
full table=20
    scan (DW style reporting.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D491020714-24092003>I'm planning to=20
    have bitmap indexes and the rest of the DW arsenal). Does anybody =
have any=20
    negative experiences </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D491020714-24092003>with that kind=20
    of stuff? It's 9.2.0.4 on RH 7.3. Am I running into ora-7445 and =
ora-0600=20
    type errors? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV align=3Dleft>--<BR>Mladen Gogala<BR>Oracle DBA <BR></DIV>
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