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I really like that "no DBA left behind" program of yours, but TX is too h=
ot
for me. I know it's a dry heat
but nevertheless, I do prefer colder climate. You can keep the Dixie Chic=
ks.
=20
=20
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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA=20


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JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



David forgot to mention a couple of things about working for AISD:=20
- We don't wear neckties (well, David does sometimes).=20
- We get 23 paid Holidays (how does 2 weeks off for Christmas and a week =
off
for Spring Break sound?).=20
- We have an unlimited site license for Oracle EE.  I slap databases out
there as needed without a second thought.=20
- Before he became MIS Director, David was an Oracle DBA and a UNIX Sys
Admin before that, so he really understands the technology and the
challenges.=20
- Did I mention that we don't wear neckties?=20

AISD's infrastructure is truly awesome.  The fiber WAN allows our
widely-scattered users to connect dependably to our databases and me to p=
ush
tons of data around quickly and reliably.  All the UNIX  and other server=
s
(not to mention our Users' PCs) are either brand new or about 3 years or
less old.  The oldest Oracle databases we have are 8.1.7.0.0 and we've
already started upgrading to 9.2.0.4.0.  We'll be moving our only Win2k
database to HP-UX in the next few months.  All the other DBs are already =
on
either HP-UX or Linux.=20

We've got a couple of less-than-perfect 3rd Party COTS applications for
Financials and Student Information, but we're rapidly applying Oracle
features to improve them and add functionality their producers never even=

thought of, as well as providing Web-enabled access to our thousands of A=
ISD
users and the Community at large.  Our Developers have hardly a Duh(velop=
er)
among them and their supervisor is top-notch, too.  An all-round great bu=
nch
of folks to work with District-wide.=20

I've been with AISD for 15 months - my first Public Sector gig ever - and=

I'm loving it.  Also, with the Economy the way it is (and will be for a
while to come), this Public Sector organization is very competitive in
salary and benefits with the Private Sector.  I know, I shopped around an=
d
got other offers before coming here.=20

Oh, and Austin being the "Live Music Capital of the World" doesn't hurt,
either.  And I certainly don't want to forget the part about not having t=
o
wear a necktie!

Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator
Austin Independent School District
Austin, Texas
512.414.9715 (wk)
512.935.5929 (pager, 5129355929@page.metrocall.com)
JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu




=09DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu=20
Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com=20


09/23/2003 03:39 PM=20
Please respond to ORACLE-L=20


=20      =20
=20       To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<ORACLE-L@fatcity.com>=20
=20       cc:        =20
=20       Subject:        DBA needed in Austin, TX



With permission from Jared:

'Needed' is kind of strong.  We've got a position open, but we're not rea=
l
needy folks.  We're a school district.  The 37th (depending on the day of=

the week) largest in the United States.  If we were a business, it'd be
pretty good-sized.  Our annual operating budget is 730 million dollars pl=
us
(of which MIS gets a really small, tiny, little itty bit), we have 15,000=

employees, 130 branch offices, our own police force and post office.  We
fix 150,000 meals a day and need to collect cash or validate for every
person through the cafeterias.  We're moving from a mainframe environment=

to client-server computing with an Oracle back-end running on HPUX and
Linux for both our student data and ERP systems. It's a pretty dynamic
shop.  We've got 40 or so people (depending on the day of the week) split=

into three areas, business systems, student systems and programming.  We
don't do the network piece, but that's solid - switched gigabit ethernet
running on over 300 miles of fiber with 100MB to the desktop.

I don't hire or set salaries.  HR does that.  I only recommend.  The sala=
ry
for this position will be somewhere between $60K and $80K depending on
experience (and whatever bizarre decisions are reached by the compensatio=
n
analyst).

You've got to be REAL strong in backup and recovery.  And curious.  We're=

planning to go where no school district (or very few) has gone before.
Your assistance will be vital in making the investment Austin has made in=

technology pay off.

If you've got any questions, please send me an email.  If you'd like to
apply, you can do so on-line at

http://www.austin.isd.tenet.edu/about/hr/search/index.phtml

Under 'classified' positions, see if you can find the DBA position.  If i=
t
isn't there (depending on the day of the week), and you can't possibly
wait, apply for either the Programmer/Analyst or UNIX Admin position.  It=

should be there sometime after 4pm CDT, or maybe tomorrow, or maybe not.
[We don't do the Internet piece - yet].


David A. Barbour
Director, Management Information Services
AISD

--=20
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really like that "no DBA left behind" program of yours, but TX is too hot=
=20for=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D936130213-25092003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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nevertheless, I do prefer colder climate. You can keep the Dixie=20
Chicks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft>--<BR>Mladen Gogala<BR>Oracle DBA <BR></DIV>
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=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
=20 ml-errors@fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors@fatcity.com] <B>On Behalf Of =

=20 </B>JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, Septe=
mber 24,=20
=20 2003 11:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list=20
=20 ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: DBA needed in Austin,=20
=20 TX<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>David for=
got to=20
=20 mention a couple of things about working for AISD:</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
=20 face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>- We don't wear neckties (well, David does=
=20
=20 sometimes).</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>- We get 23 p=
aid Holidays=20
=20 (how does 2 weeks off for Christmas and a week off for Spring Break=20
=20 sound?).</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>- We have an unl=
imited site=20
=20 license for Oracle EE. &nbsp;I slap databases out there as needed wit=
hout a=20
=20 second thought.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>- Before =
he became MIS=20
=20 Director, David was an Oracle DBA and a UNIX Sys Admin before that, s=
o he=20
=20 really understands the technology and the challenges.</FONT> <BR><FON=
T=20
=20 face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>- Did I mention that we don't wear necktie=
s?</FONT>=20
=20 <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>AISD's infrastructure is tru=
ly awesome.=20
=20 &nbsp;The fiber WAN allows our widely-scattered users to connect depe=
ndably to=20
=20 our databases and me to push tons of data around quickly and reliably=
.=20
=20 &nbsp;All the UNIX &nbsp;and other servers (not to mention our Users'=
=20PCs) are=20
=20 either brand new or about 3 years or less old. &nbsp;The oldest Oracl=
e=20
=20 databases we have are 8.1.7.0.0 and we've already started upgrading t=
o=20
=20 9.2.0.4.0. &nbsp;We'll be moving our only Win2k database to HP-UX in =
the next=20
=20 few months. &nbsp;All the other DBs are already on either HP-UX or=20
=20 Linux.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>We've got a co=
uple of=20
=20 less-than-perfect 3rd Party COTS applications for Financials and Stud=
ent=20
=20 Information, but we're rapidly applying Oracle features to improve th=
em and=20
=20 add functionality their producers never even thought of, as well as p=
roviding=20
=20 Web-enabled access to our thousands of AISD users and the Community a=
t large.=20
=20 &nbsp;Our Developers have hardly a Duh(veloper) among them and their =

=20 supervisor is top-notch, too. &nbsp;An all-round great bunch of folks=
=20to work=20
=20 with District-wide.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>I=
've been with=20
=20 AISD for 15 months - my first Public Sector gig ever - and I'm loving=
=20it.=20
=20 &nbsp;Also, with the Economy the way it is (and will be for a while t=
o come),=20
=20 this Public Sector organization is very competitive in salary and ben=
efits=20
=20 with the Private Sector. &nbsp;I know, I shopped around and got other=
=20offers=20
=20 before coming here.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>O=
h, and Austin=20
=20 being the "Live Music Capital of the World" doesn't hurt, either. &nb=
sp;And I=20
=20 certainly don't want to forget the part about not having to wear a=20
=20 necktie!<BR><BR>Jack C. Applewhite<BR>Database Administrator<BR>Austi=
n=20
=20 Independent School District<BR>Austin, Texas<BR>512.414.9715=20
=20 (wk)<BR>512.935.5929 (pager,=20
=20 5129355929@page.metrocall.com)<BR>JApplewhite@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR=
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=20     <TD><FONT face=3Dsans-serif=20
=20       size=3D1><B>DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu</B></FONT> <BR><FONT =

=20       face=3Dsans-serif size=3D1>Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com</FONT=
>=20
=20       <P><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D1>09/23/2003 03:39 PM</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
=20       face=3Dsans-serif size=3D1>Please respond to ORACLE-L</FONT> <B=
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=20     <TD><FONT face=3DArial size=3D1>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </FON=
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=20       &nbsp; &nbsp;Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
=20       &lt;ORACLE-L@fatcity.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif=
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=20       size=3D1>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=20
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=20       &nbsp; Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;DBA needed in Austin=
,=20
=20       TX</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Courier=
=20New" size=3D2>With=20
=20 permission from Jared:<BR><BR>'Needed' is kind of strong. &nbsp;We've=
=20got a=20
=20 position open, but we're not real<BR>needy folks. &nbsp;We're a schoo=
l=20
=20 district. &nbsp;The 37th (depending on the day of<BR>the week) larges=
t in the=20
=20 United States. &nbsp;If we were a business, it'd be<BR>pretty good-si=
zed.=20
=20 &nbsp;Our annual operating budget is 730 million dollars plus<BR>(of =
which MIS=20
=20 gets a really small, tiny, little itty bit), we have 15,000<BR>employ=
ees, 130=20
=20 branch offices, our own police force and post office. &nbsp;We<BR>fix=
=20150,000=20
=20 meals a day and need to collect cash or validate for every<BR>person =
through=20
=20 the cafeterias. &nbsp;We're moving from a mainframe environment<BR>to=
=20
=20 client-server computing with an Oracle back-end running on HPUX and<B=
R>Linux=20
=20 for both our student data and ERP systems. It's a pretty dynamic<BR>s=
hop.=20
=20 &nbsp;We've got 40 or so people (depending on the day of the week)=20
=20 split<BR>into three areas, business systems, student systems and prog=
ramming.=20
=20 &nbsp;We<BR>don't do the network piece, but that's solid - switched g=
igabit=20
=20 ethernet<BR>running on over 300 miles of fiber with 100MB to the=20
=20 desktop.<BR><BR>I don't hire or set salaries. &nbsp;HR does that. &nb=
sp;I only=20
=20 recommend. &nbsp;The salary<BR>for this position will be somewhere be=
tween=20
=20 $60K and $80K depending on<BR>experience (and whatever bizarre decisi=
ons are=20
=20 reached by the compensation<BR>analyst).<BR><BR>You've got to be REAL=
=20strong=20
=20 in backup and recovery. &nbsp;And curious. &nbsp;We're<BR>planning to=
=20go where=20
=20 no school district (or very few) has gone before.<BR>Your assistance =
will be=20
=20 vital in making the investment Austin has made in<BR>technology pay=20
=20 off.<BR><BR>If you've got any questions, please send me an email. &nb=
sp;If=20
=20 you'd like to<BR>apply, you can do so on-line=20
=20 at<BR><BR>http://www.austin.isd.tenet.edu/about/hr/search/index.phtml=
<BR><BR>Under=20
=20 'classified' positions, see if you can find the DBA position. &nbsp;I=
f=20
=20 it<BR>isn't there (depending on the day of the week), and you can't=20
=20 possibly<BR>wait, apply for either the Programmer/Analyst or UNIX Adm=
in=20
=20 position. &nbsp;It<BR>should be there sometime after 4pm CDT, or mayb=
e=20
=20 tomorrow, or maybe not.<BR>[We don't do the Internet piece -=20
=20 yet].<BR><BR><BR>David A. Barbour<BR>Director, Management Information=
=20
=20 Services<BR>AISD<BR><BR>-- <BR>Author: <BR>&nbsp;INET:=20
=20 DBarbour@austin.isd.tenet.edu<BR></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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