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RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

From: Melanie Caffrey <mcaffrey_at_proximo.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:14:47 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D03A4.20030917071447@fatcity.com> 





Dennis,



Thank you for this.



BTW, I like your signature.  :-)  I think it sums up quite a number of
us.



Best regards,


Melanie



-----Original Message-----


DENNIS WILLIAMS



Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Melanie


   The story I got from an Oracle instructor was that somebody was
bragging


about how they passed the OCP without ever logging into Oracle. I guess
this


caused some consternation in Redwood Shores. The quickest fix was to
require


everyone to take one class. When I asked the instructor if that meant
that


all instructors were to ensure that each student logged into Oracle, he
just


smiled.



Dennis Williams


DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA



Lifetouch, Inc.


dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com 




-----Original Message-----


Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




This is most likely the reason Oracle has now made it a requirement.
Otherwise, who would ever take a course?


	-----Original Message----- 
	From: M Rafiq [mailto:rafiq9857_at_hotmail.com] 
	Sent: Tue 9/16/2003 11:54 PM 
	To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
	Cc: 
	Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations
	
	

	Not really, most of DBA on this list did their OCP without any
Oracle formal
	training. Use your experience on that version, study relevant
material or
	available books/docs, do practice of STS test questions and then


you


are


        pretty much ready for exam.
        


        I did my OCP from 7. to 9i without attending and formal course
and


passed in


        first attempt....
        

	Regards
	Rafiq
	
	
	
	
	Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
	To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
	Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:04:40 -0800
	
	Does anyone other than Oracle truely believe that a course is
necessary if
	you can pass the exam?
	
	
	
	-----Original Message-----
	Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2003 8:50 AM
	To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
	
	
	
	One may as well get used to putting forth some extra expenditure
when
	getting certified now.
	
	The publisher, Coriolis, went under.
	
	And now Oracle is requiring that you complete at least one of


their


prep


        courses (irrespective of whether you believe you need it or not)
in


        order to become OCP-certified for 9i.
        
        

	-----Original Message-----
	rgaffuri_at_cox.net
	Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:00 AM
	To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
	
	they are not outstanding. they are ok? They are also expensive.


I


have


        found the Coriolis books to be better than the Osborne books in
quality.


        They dont have 9i ones. you can get the 8.0/8i ones for $9/each
at


        maryland-merchant.com
        


        Im using those myself, then the docs. I didnt like the osborne
books.


	 >

	 > From: "Rajesh Dayal" <rajesh_at_iitcoman.com>

	 > Date: 2003/09/16 Tue AM 10:09:24 EDT

	 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

<ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>


	 > Subject: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

	 >

	 > Try out self study materials from



http://www.selftestsoftware.com


they

	are simply outstanding.


	 > I have always found them helpful for all my exams. But at



same


time I

	never totally rely on them,


	 > I first complete my ground work with standard syllabus



(available


on

	Oracle OCP site) and Oracle


	 > Documentation then only I Open them ;-).

	 >

	 > HTH,

	 >

	 > Rajesh Dayal

	 > Senior Oracle DBA (OCP 8,8i,9i)

	 > International Information Technology Company LLC

	 >

	 >

	 >  -----Original Message-----

	 > Sent:        Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:14 PM

	 > To:  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

	 > Subject:     Fwd: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

	 >

	 > All,

	 >

	 > I just purchased a Oracle9i Fundamentals I exam guide



published


by

	Oracle


	 > Press and am very disappointed with the quality of the

publication.
	There


	 > seems to be quite a few mistakes, misleading sentences and



typos


(not

	in


	 > the Errata) which is very frustrating.

	 >

	 > Also, there is a question in the "Managing Tablespaces and

Datafiles"


	 > chapter that replies on the order of the multiple-choices,

however the
	quiz


	 > software randomises the choices so the question no longer



makes


sense



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