Oracle-L: RE: "Application DBA"

From: April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 04:44:26 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CEA24.20030903044426@fatcity.com>

Developer Administrators... not in this lifetime. There are some of our developers I don't want to 'administer'... it is too much fun watching/helping them learn. Once they come to terms with my sense of humor and realize that I want them to experiment and try new things, we have a great relationship. There are other developers I would LOVE to administer, but who don't take advice at all well. Those are the ones who try to edit production, refuse to provide information on what is being built in the database and who try to use unsupported tools in arenas where they don't belong.

I think the distinction is more of a development dba as opposed to one who is responsible for major production systems. Development DBA may not be on call 24 X 7 but may be tasked (that has to be the WORST verb... tasked) with dealing with the developers in a bigger shop. Production DBAs deal with the bigger, critical databases and have the "luxury" (if that is how you want to think of it) of not having to deal so hands on with ongoing development.

Personally... I just enjoy the variety... most of the time. =)

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I am wondering, if some people are called "Development DBAs" or "Application Database Administrators", are there people called "Database Database Administrators"?

Sounds kind of redundant. It seems to me if "DBA" (the acronym) wasn't used routinely as a word, and people lost track of what the acronym stands for, the term "Application DBA" would not even appear in conversation.

Some people might be "Developer Administrators".

: )

Patrice.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In the usage I'm familiar with (I are one) an applications DBA is responsible for both the database and the apps stack in an Oracle Application's environment. What it means outside the hallowed Oracle Apps world is, wait for it, application dependant :-) Groans will be redeircted to a kill file!

Allan

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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Patrice, Stephane

My 2 cents worth. I have seen differences between administering an Oracle database that is hosting an in-house developed application compared to administering and Oracle database that is hosting a third-party application. In one case you get to know the developers, negotiate with them, etc. In the other case you get to know how the application uses Oracle. I don't know if that is what is meant by "application DBA".

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Usually, the term used is devlopment DBA.

Stephane Paquette<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Administrateur de bases de donnees

Database Administrator

Standard Life

www.standardlife.ca

Tel. (514) 499-7999 7470 and (514) 925-7187

stephane.paquette_at_standardlife.ca
<mailto:stephane.paquette_at_standardlife.ca>

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Boivin, Patrice J
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Someone sent me this URL when I mentioned that there may be Application Administrators, but no Application DBAs.

<http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/oit/SDM/inHTML/HtmlFiles/SDM/St yleG
uide/SECURITYANDACCESSPOLICY.htm>
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/oit/SDM/inHTML/HtmlFiles/SDM/Sty leGu
ide/SECURITYANDACCESSPOLICY.htm

Patrice.

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