RE: How to keep "root" out?

Yes, that is correct.

There is no way to keep root out of the database without label security. Since I don't know how that works, please don't ask me to explain. :)

Jared

On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 12:14, Ari Kaplan wrote:
> If you somehow prevent the specific "root" account out, can't the sysadmin
> still do an "su - oracle" and then get in as sysdba under the "oracle"
> account?
>
> -Ari
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Jared Still
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:14 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> The security model of Oracle on both unix and Windows
> precludes any ability to prevent access to the database
> by a knowledgeable user with root or admin access.
>
> Pete Sharman could no doubt go into some detail here.
>
> I bought his security book, I'll check it out when I get to work.
>
> Could be there's something I've overlooked. :)
>
> Jared
>
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:29, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> > Walter
> > You may be able to approach this from a security aspect. You could
> > discuss with your management whether it is a good idea for the system
> > administrators to be in a database. Depending on the security or SLA
> > requirements of the database, you may have some leverage there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:10 AM
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> >
> >
> > Well, first of all, root should not be in your dba group...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the
> Unix
> > "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal or / as
> > sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
> >
> > We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to
> "help"
> > by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they don't know
> what
> > they're talking about. They do not have formal logins for the database,
> but
> > since they are root users they are connecting via "connect internal". This
> > is not only counterproductive but actually a potential security
> issue--just
> > because someone has root doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the data
> in
> > the database. What if it is a payroll database?
> >
> > So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect internal"
> > or "/ as sysdba"?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > W
> >
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