Oracle-L: RE: SAP Hands SAP DB over to MySQL

From: Goulet, Dick <DGoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 14:25:48 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005A6660.20030529142548@fatcity.com>

Maybe not for mission critical apps, but for non mission critical apps, especially on the internet, their a damn good choice. And the internet license is a bargain as well.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:25 PM
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Everybody is under cost pressures these days, right? Recently my boss required that I attend a few "webinars" hosted by Microsoft to hear their line on TCO because he didn't want the choice of our next platform to be a "technical decision" (we're on Tru64 unix). I don't think I'll be encouraged to consider MySQL, postgre sql, linux, etc anytime soon for mission critical apps but who knows?

SAP has been sparring with Oracle for at least the past 10 years. SAP's success has helped Oracle sell their product which I guess is irksome to SAP since they see Oracle as a competitor. At one point, SAP was encouraging new customers to select Informix. Now it seems to be DB2 and/or "SAP DB"... At sapteched this year, their analysis of the database market was that it was at a point where features had become a commodity but commodity pricing hadn't happened yet...but that it would. They were calling Oracle/IBM/Microsoft the dominant options and then comparing them with SAP DB. I don't recall any talk about MySQL, postgresql...

Kip

|Okay, I've got a question for you people knowledgeable in SAP. Who would
|trust their financial and payroll data to MySQL? I'm not saying this to
|knock MySQL. It is just that your financial and payroll data is among your
|most valuable data in the corporation. Only recently was a transaction
|capability added to MySQL, and that was more of an "add-on". I manage
|several databases and my company even makes modest use of MySQL. But of
|those databases, the financial and payroll data would be the LAST database I
|would convert to something like MySQL. I'm just curious what is the big
|incentive in MySQL is.

|Dennis Williams
|DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
|Lifetouch, Inc.
|dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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|Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 PM
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|Maybe it is just so they can continue to say they're "not a database
|company"
|(insert sound of condescension) to emphasize their "focus on applications
|excellence" in the veiled jabs they continue to make at Oracle. On the
|other
|hand, I can't imagine they would give up development control because they do

|make a specialized version of SAP DB for "object oriented" programming
|(they say they couldn't find a product that worked "correctly"...).

|Kip

||I dunno. Though both want to make a profit ( and rightly so ) SAP
||doesn't seem to have the same mercenary mentality that MS has.

||Jared

||"Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com>
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|| Subject: RE: SAP Hands SAP DB over to MySQL

||Reminiscent of the M$/Sybase "partnership?"

||-----Original Message-----
||Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:40 AM
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||At http://www.sapdb.org/7.4/pdf/sapdb_letter.pdf SAP offers
|"clarification:"

||SAP:
||"Contrary to erroneous press reports, SAP AG has not given up any rights
||concerning the SAP DB code base nor handed over or even sold SAP DB to
||MySQL AB."

||SAP:
||"SAP AG remains responsible for ongoing development and support."

||CNet:
||"MySQL will take over most of the development of SAP DB."

||-----Original Message-----
||Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:01 PM
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||The past few months I've been wondering when MySQL would start
||putting pressure on Oracle in the same way that Linux is putting
||pressure on MS.

||Maybe sooner than you think:

||http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-1010522.html?tag=fd_top

||Jared

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