Oracle-L: RE: SAP Hands SAP DB over to MySQL

From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 11:54:55 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005A615B.20030529115455@fatcity.com>

Thanks, Kip, Jared, Dick - that makes more sense. I now recall that Lawson also ships a free (non-relational) database with its software. Some sites use it for their first year conversion activities (and some much longer). It is much faster than Oracle or the other relational databases. When the customer would spend the big bucks to buy Oracle they would expect it to be faster and were very shocked. When I worked for Lawson one of my duties was to try to reason with the customer on this. The Sybase interface developer Bob sat across the aisle from me and he had a very belligerent customer that wouldn't understand this. Day after day he would harangue Bob. One day he called up and icily said that the Oracle salesman had agreed to apply his Sybase license fee toward Oracle. When he hung up Bob smiled sweetly and said "he's all yours now".

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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The incentive? $$$, and lots of it.

Larry E talked folks into trusting Oracle at it's inception, and I'll bet it
was quite a bit less robust then than MySQL is now.

Give MySQL a couple years and see what happens.

It may never be appropriate for certain apps, but for small to medium plain vanilla RDBMS, it may be a good fit.

Jared

DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
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Okay, I've got a question for you people knowledgeable in SAP. Who would trust their financial and payroll data to MySQL? I'm not saying this to knock MySQL. It is just that your financial and payroll data is among your most valuable data in the corporation. Only recently was a transaction capability added to MySQL, and that was more of an "add-on". I manage several databases and my company even makes modest use of MySQL. But of those databases, the financial and payroll data would be the LAST database I
would convert to something like MySQL. I'm just curious what is the big incentive in MySQL is.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Maybe it is just so they can continue to say they're "not a database company"
(insert sound of condescension) to emphasize their "focus on applications excellence" in the veiled jabs they continue to make at Oracle. On the other
hand, I can't imagine they would give up development control because they do

make a specialized version of SAP DB for "object oriented" programming (they say they couldn't find a product that worked "correctly"...).

Kip

|I dunno. Though both want to make a profit ( and rightly so ) SAP
|doesn't seem to have the same mercenary mentality that MS has.

|Jared

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|Reminiscent of the M$/Sybase "partnership?"

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|At http://www.sapdb.org/7.4/pdf/sapdb_letter.pdf SAP offers
"clarification:"

|SAP:
|"Contrary to erroneous press reports, SAP AG has not given up any rights
|concerning the SAP DB code base nor handed over or even sold SAP DB to
|MySQL AB."

|SAP:
|"SAP AG remains responsible for ongoing development and support."

|CNet:
|"MySQL will take over most of the development of SAP DB."

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|The past few months I've been wondering when MySQL would start
|putting pressure on Oracle in the same way that Linux is putting
|pressure on MS.

|Maybe sooner than you think:

|http://news.com.com/2100-1012_3-1010522.html?tag=fd_top

|Jared

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