RE: Interesting Marketing

Yes, but that marketing is almost as bad as the 2-3 page .sigs that some people sport...

;-)

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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> From: Karniotis, Stephen [SMTP:Stephen_Karniotis_at_compuware.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:37 AM
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> Subject: RE: Interesting Marketing
>
> Folks.
>
> Let's be nice here. There has been quite a bit of bashing against TUSC
> lately. I would suggest that you maintain a decorum on this. Take it to
> the OT list if not.
>
> Thank You
>
> Stephen P. Karniotis
> Product Architect
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:52 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Interesting Marketing
>
> Their pitch for having people sign up for a free book at IOUG included the
> caveat ' if your boss listens to Jake's sales pitch for off site DBA
> services, you will get the book'. Of course, if Jake is successful that's
> all you will have because TUSC will have your job.
>
> They do have interesting marketing techniques, tho.
>
> Ruth
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>
> >
> > I've just discovered why TUSC has such a
> > great opinion of itself. From the website:
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > At TUSC, if we identify a project where the odds of success
> > are low and we won't be able to sustain the type of client
> > involvement that is needed to be successful, we won't get
> > involved. We base our decisions on whether the project
> > will make sense for both the client and TUSC.
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> >
> > Am I missing something, or does this really read:
> >
> > "If it looks too difficult for us, we run away".
> >
> > or is it
> >
> > "We only get involved if it looks easy"
> >
> >
> >
> > How long has TUSC been around ?
> > How's this for the 'Case Study' section of their
> > website.
> >
> > <quote>
> >
> > Take, for example, one of our very first clients. It had
> > a critical program that took days to run. TUSC was
> > asked what could be done and our experts quickly
> > demonstrated how the program's performance could
> > be greatly improved so that the application could run
> > in less than an hour.
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> >
> > If I recall dates correctly, I thnk this means the only
> > case study they claim (without any explanation of
> > methods to show their skill set) is one from the
> > days of Oracle 6. How strange that they don't quote
> > a more recent experience.#
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jonathan Lewis
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