Re: Security Clearance RE. RE was career path

I served from 1961 thru 1969. Until 1965 I was in the reserves (while in college) enlisted starting out as an E1 and finishing up as an E4 Quartermaster SS when I went on active duty. Went to enlisted sub school my first summer break and then got my twin dolphins.

When I graduated college I went to OCS in Newport, RI in summer of '65. When I graduated as an Ensign (Insect) I went to New London and served on the Angler (AGSS 240) for six months and got a nice Caribbean cruise out of it. Then went to officer sub school and on the Pearl Harbor and served for two years on the Pickerel (SS-524) which was a Guppy III spook boat. Then finished up a year-and-a-half on the Albacore (AGSS-569) at the Portsmouth Shipyard. Never saw much time at sea on the 569 because she was passed her overhaul cycle by a year and they wouldn't let us submerge! The Albacore is now on permanent display just north of Portsmouth, NH. Finished up as a LT.

What is USACFSC?

Ken

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>
> What Subs were you on,
> I was on the SSBN 618 Thomas Jefferson Gold Crew,
> from 1970-1974.
>
> Did 1 patrol driving myself,
> and then shifted into the Missile Fire Control spot.
>
> Actually got to fire 1 Missile on the Atlantic test range.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 16:24
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>
>
> When I was driving submarines for a living I required TS, Crypto and SI
> (above TS) clearances. The SI was good for only six months. Didn't have
to
> take a lie detector test or have my hand writing looked at.
>
> Ken Janusz, CPIM
>
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>
>
> > Things may have changed, but Confidential clearances used to granted on
> nothing more than a local records check. Secret clearances on a national
> one. Interviews used to not start until you were put in for Top Secret.
> If the job requires compartmented access than the investigation is more
> thorough, more interviews are done etc, for a while lie detector tests
were
> pretty common and even such nonsense as analyzing handwriting.
> >
> > Ian MacGregor
> > Stanford linear Accelerator Center
> > ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.edu
> >
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> >
> > Interesting..... didnt know that the FBI was doing this. The
> clearances
> > I am speaking of deal with military agencies and federal government
> intelligence agencies. I have never heard of expedited clearances, but
that
> > doesnt mean there isnt such a thing. The normal process involved
> through
> > these agencies is to get a secret clearance and then proceed upward from
> > there. The secret clearance may take a shorter period of time, but
> once
> > you acquire it, you still may not be able to get access to information
you
> > need to do your job. If you need something higher than that, it is
> > still my understanding you are looking at 2 years.
> >
> > FWIW, Mike
> >
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> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:52 AM
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> >
> >
> > If a company REALLY wants you, they can ask for an expedited security
> clearance, which only takes a couple of weeks. However, that is more
likely
> to be the case when you are already working for the company and they
simply
> want you to be assigned to another job that requires a clearance. Also,
the
> fact that you previously had a clearance will help. The feds will not
> re-contact all the contacts from the prior part of your life that they
> already investigated. Mostly, they will concentrate on contacts since the
> clearance expired.
> >
> > BTW, I have been a contact for one friend who got a clearance, and had a
> really interesting interview with an FBI agent. I'm now scheduled for an
> interview for another friend, who is getting an expedited clearance. In
the
> first case, it was actually a few months from the time my friend told me
she
> gave them my name to the time I was contacted. In the second case, it was
> two days.
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 3:07 PM
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> >
> >
> > List,
> > There are a lot of prime job openings that I am interested but they
> require a Security Clearance. If I have a job that provided the security
> clearance I am all set....But if I do not need one now and do not have one
> now, How do I get one to be able to apply for the job opening? I have had
a
> T-S Crypto clearance in the past but it has expired and I would like to
get
> a clearance reinstated again. What steps are required for an individual
to
> get a clearance but not currently have a job that requires it?
> >
> > It sounds like catch-22 to me . You need the clearance to get the job
but
> need the job to get the clearance. Ron
> >
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