Oracle-L: RE: presenting...

From: Igor Neyman <ineyman_at_perceptron.com>
Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 12:07:11 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00594643.20030508120711@fatcity.com>

Dennis,

Congrats on % increase.
Though, I told you long time ago (just reading your messages to this board), that you have nothing to worry about :-)

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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WILLIAMS
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:56 PM
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Paula - Wow, what a memory! You are right. I thought the Net exam would be
tough, but several people on the list said it wasn't as bad as you expect.
That is encouraging.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:53 PM
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Hey, 80% now - so you have the networking exam left - right?

Oracle OCP DBA

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<mailto:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> ]
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:17 AM
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Another vote for Toastmasters. I participated for about 5 years. I find the
fundamentals they drill into you helps even in informal business discussions. Clear communication helps all around. Highly recommended. http://www.toastmasters.org/ <http://www.toastmasters.org/>

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:02 PM
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Whilst I've never been to Toastmasters, I've a number of friends who (when they changed from technical to managerial) swear by the benefits - so I indirectly recommend the organisation vigorously.

Unfortunately I'm stuck with the opposite affliction of too much liking for public speaking. Generally my presentations conclude with:

"Excuse me Mr McDonald. Its building management here. Everyone's gone home. You've run over your 1 hour timeslot by 3 days...Get out of our building or we call security! And get that stupid grin off your face"

:-)

Stephen Andert <StephenAndert_at_firsthealth.com> wrote: > Well, as a first time IOUG presenter this year, I'm
> probably way
> under-qualified to address this questions, but here
> goes anyway.
>
> I've attended presentations that were so-so
> content-wise, but the
> quality of the speaker made it enjoyable. I've been
> in presentations
> that were top-shelf content-wise but were presented
> by a speaker that
> was either new or not as polished as some and I
> enjoyed them for the
> content. The best ones are the ones that have both.
> I realized about 8
> years ago that my career would be made or broken
> based not on technical
> skills, but on my ability to communicate to other
> people in both
> technical and non-technical realms. I was deathly
> afraid of public
> speaking so I joined Toastmasters. Through their
> program I was able to
> learn some skills required for presenting as well as
> practice speaking
> in a supportive environment. Even still, I get
> butterflies before
> starting a presentation or public speech (I've
> presented several times
> at my local user group). To some degree those
> butterflies are good
> since they give you a certain degree of excitement
> about the topic.
> I've attended presentations where the speaker not
> only knew everything
> about a topic, but was bored with it and that is a
> very bad way to spend
> any length of time. I had my presentation done in
> time so that I
> presented it at my local user group and used the
> feedback from the 20 or
> so people there to enhance it. I also practiced
> presenting one last
> time about two hours before my time slot so that
> everything was fresh.
>
> If you have ideas (and I know you do), pick one that
> interests you and
> prepare a presentation for a smaller gathering
> (local user group or
> company group). That will give you practice and
> feedback to polish it
> for a bigger conference. Now if you want more help
> preparing, find a
> Toastmasters in your area (www.toastmasters.org).
> Even if the members
> of your club aren't in your line of work, they can
> help you polish your
> presentation in terms of flow, pace, visuals, etc.
>
> Good luck & hope to see you present soon.
> Stephen, former Toastmasters member
>
> >>> messydba_at_yahoo.com 05/07/03 10:26AM >>>
> OK, i've been told by several people [i do question
> their sanuty.;-)]
> that i should present at one of these conference
> things.
>
> so, from you experienced presenters, what's the
> precedure? any tips?
> am i totally insane? [OK don't answer that last
> one.;-)]
>
>
> =====
> --
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>

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