this was back in the "olden days" when a degree was a real degree and
we carved the computers out of stone with our bare hands :) we didn't
do BS
actually, it WAS back in the day.... my class was the second class to
graduate with an actual Computer Science degree, prior to that it was
given through the Math Department.
I want OUT of this business, not a further degree in it! If Montana
State offers a good program in veterinary work however, we can talk. I
know Colorado does.. Dan, you renting out rooms?
- "Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com> wrote:
> Isn't a Computer Science degree usually a BS and not a BA?
>
> You're right about the fact that damagement doesn't care much about
> what the degree was in. It's just a crazy rite of passage sometimes.
>
> > Someday I'll go back to school
> Montana State offers masters and doctorates in computer science and I
> can rent out a room in the basement. :-) A few folks around here are
> going for the computer science M.S. Or if you're looking for a career
> change I understand the programs in mining, geology, and paleantology
> are quite good. Then there's the Agricultural Science track. Just met
> a cowboy the other day who is getting his degree in "Range
> Management." :-)
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:32 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Importance: High
>
>
> I don't have any degree higher than a plain BA. It hasn't made a
> difference as far as I can see, however, I have gone on interviews
> where they asked if I had a college degree. They didn't seem to care
> WHAT the degree was in (mine as it happens IS in Computer Science).
>
> I started an MBA program. And realized that it would push me towards
> the management track (I hope I'd never turn into damagement), where I
> didn't want to be.
>
> Someday I'll go back to school, perhaps for another degree, perhaps
> not. Definitely for something I'm interested in as opposed to
> something
> just to earn money
>
> --- "Orr, Steve" <sorr_at_rightnow.com> wrote:
> > I hold a generic MBA... hold the applause please. To my
> > amazement/amusement it's actually made a difference in successful
> gig
> > acquisition. It doesn't seem to matter whether the institution is
> > ivory tower or run of the mill, paper mill that is. Getting an
> > accredited online degree in your spare time could be a strategy for
> > folks that don't want to give up a job. I guess the question is
> > whether the degree is for personally vanity or part of a well
> thought
> > out career plan.
> >
> > Teenage hackers who are smart as a whip and can write their own
> > ticket without any degree may be an even better career strategy for
> > geeks. Just ask Billy G. Or for a real laugh check out the
> offensive
> > commencement address Larry E. gave to a bunch of ivory tower grads.
> >
>
http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.satirewire.com/news/0006/satire%2Dellison.html
> > (btw, the above speech is actually a hoax as it never occurred.)
> >
> > It's getting cold around here... 4 degrees below zero:
> >
> > 0
> > M.B.A. More Banal Accolades
> > B.S. Bull S**t
> > M.S More of the Same
> > Ph.D Piled High and Deep
> >
> >
> > Steve Orr
> > Bozeman, Montana
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:52 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are planning to stay on the technical/practical/nuts and
> bolts
> > side of things, then a masters is the way to go. I wouldn't bother
> > with a Ph.D unless you are shooting for a teaching/research
> position.
> > At best most places will ignore it and at worst you will be
> > overqualified. If you have the extra time, get a second masters,
> > perhaps an MBA. Your training should say, "I understand the
> practical
> > side of all this" not "I am Ivory Tower, go away."
> >
> > My hope is to retire to a teaching position at a local university
> in
> > 20 years. In a case like that I will want that Ph.D, but not for
> some
> > time yet.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:42 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Ive noticed that not having a technical degree really hurt me in my
> > latest job search. Getting another bachelors would actually take as
> > long as getting 2 masters degrees and almost as long as Ph.D, since
> > Universites are 'difficult' on transfer credit.
> >
> > Ive also noticed that alot of positions these days really want
> > technical degrees and preferably graduate degrees. Masters only
> takes
> > 2 years and its interesting since. Havent decided on the Ph.D, will
> > take me a while since I have a non-technical degree, so I have to
> > take a bunch of math to qualify.
> >
> > Im only 28 and basically while Im still young, I want to make sure
> Im
> > position so that in the future I can do what ever is needed. I
> doublt
> > Ill be writing PL/SQL then. I worked with a guy who was a
> mainframer
> > for 30 years and the demand for him was extremely high through the
> > early 1990s, but has fallen off the earth. He got into Oracle
> > development, but he had to step down to a junior level position.
> This
> > gravely concerns me.
> >
> > Ph.D... is a real pain.
> >
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