that and being known as the owner of the Oracle-L list. :)
- Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I don't have a degree in anything, but it hasn't seem to
> have hurt me too much.
>
> Age and experience play a part I guess.
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday 07 May 2003 10:31, Orr, Steve wrote:
> > I hold a generic MBA... hold the applause please. To my
> amazement/amusement
> > it's actually made a difference in successful gig acquisition. It
> doesn't
> > seem to matter whether the institution is ivory tower or run of the
> mill,
> > paper mill that is. Getting an accredited online degree in your
> spare time
> > could be a strategy for folks that don't want to give up a job. I
> guess the
> > question is whether the degree is for personally vanity or part of
> a well
> > thought out career plan.
> >
> > Teenage hackers who are smart as a whip and can write their own
> ticket
> > without any degree may be an even better career strategy for geeks.
> Just
> > ask Billy G. Or for a real laugh check out the offensive
> commencement
> > address Larry E. gave to a bunch of ivory tower grads.
> >
>
http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.satire
> >wire.com/news/0006/satire%2Dellison.html (btw, the above speech is
> actually
> > a hoax as it never occurred.)
> >
> > It's getting cold around here... 4 degrees below zero:
> >
> > 0
> > M.B.A. More Banal Accolades
> > B.S. Bull S**t
> > M.S More of the Same
> > Ph.D Piled High and Deep
> >
> >
> > Steve Orr
> > Bozeman, Montana
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:52 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are planning to stay on the technical/practical/nuts and
> bolts side
> > of things, then a masters is the way to go. I wouldn't bother with
> a Ph.D
> > unless you are shooting for a teaching/research position. At best
> most
> > places will ignore it and at worst you will be overqualified. If
> you have
> > the extra time, get a second masters, perhaps an MBA. Your training
> should
> > say, "I understand the practical side of all this" not "I am Ivory
> Tower,
> > go away."
> >
> > My hope is to retire to a teaching position at a local university
> in 20
> > years. In a case like that I will want that Ph.D, but not for some
> time
> > yet.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:42 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Ive noticed that not having a technical degree really hurt me in my
> latest
> > job search. Getting another bachelors would actually take as long
> as
> > getting 2 masters degrees and almost as long as Ph.D, since
> Universites are
> > 'difficult' on transfer credit.
> >
> > Ive also noticed that alot of positions these days really want
> technical
> > degrees and preferably graduate degrees. Masters only takes 2 years
> and its
> > interesting since. Havent decided on the Ph.D, will take me a while
> since I
> > have a non-technical degree, so I have to take a bunch of math to
> qualify.
> >
> > Im only 28 and basically while Im still young, I want to make sure
> Im
> > position so that in the future I can do what ever is needed. I
> doublt Ill
> > be writing PL/SQL then. I worked with a guy who was a mainframer
> for 30
> > years and the demand for him was extremely high through the early
> 1990s,
> > but has fallen off the earth. He got into Oracle development, but
> he had to
> > step down to a junior level position. This gravely concerns me.
> >
> > Ph.D... is a real pain.
>
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