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<RANT>
Oracle Apps is wonderful.... For our current incarnation, we started with 11.5.4. After 500 (yes, that's a 5 with two zeros) patches, we applied the 11.5.8 update. 100 patches later, we are looking forward to the 11.5.9 maintenance release this fall.
Oh, and by the way, each one of those patches generally has a language specific version as well. Let's see, 3 languages installed, 500 patches, ....
Oh, and by the way, apply a patch for one module, say order entry, and pray it doesn't break something in a different module. (It generally will)
</RANT>
Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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NO... I have been doing Apps for a year... I am starting to learn. There IS no automatic undo for patching. There are only more and more and more and more and more patches to fix the broken-ness
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
-----Original Message-----
From: Orr, Steve [mailto:sorr_at_rightnow.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
Then you have to pay more for the "OEM automatic undo" feature.
-----Original Message-----
From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
I can see it now...
"Oracle made a mistake, their patch crashed our server. not my fault."
Patrice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lofstrand [mailto:blofstrand_at_csedge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
Maybe, (Hope, Pray) this is all a big hoax. Oracle could announce this feature and
use it as a marketing tool toward management, but never really implement it, all
the while knowing that there will never be real dba that will even try to turn it
on while a wet behind the ears, fresh out of a 5 week crash course in playing dba
junior type will never quite figure out what they are doing wrong.
-----Original Message-----
From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet_at_vicr.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
More info on the subject at:
http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=121406&liFlavourID=1
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Johnson [mailto:Tony_Johnson_at_Trimble.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
Actually I think what they showed is really going to be part of OEM4. My
understanding is that the 1st release will be out in the coming weeks with a
.1 release ( with functionality like a pocketpc version) to be out in q3/4
timeframe. Oracle 10( or whatever its called ) will be unveiled at
Oracle(Open)World in September.
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells [mailto:awells_at_csedge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:27 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
doing it right rather than monkeying around with bells and whistles...
weird concept.
The kid that demo-ed it would have been more impressive if he had once
showed the audience the cool toy, rather than the VP the cool toy.
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
-----Original Message-----
From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
Sure, the Oracle 'boy' did demo this auto patching stuff and it
all looked pretty impressive..... One more check-mark in the
list of things the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from
them :)
But my little brain kept wondering......
..... as to why would Oracle come up with this wonderful
feature? Why can't they use such brilliant Developers to
concentrate on thoroughly testing their code so it does not need
a lot of patchwork. Patching should be an exception, not a
routine procedure that needs automation !!
BTW.. The new release may not be called 10i, after all.
- Kirti
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells [mailto:awells_at_csedge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Oracle 10
Did find out that it will automatically download and
install all patches and OEM will allow it to be scheduled
so that you don't actually have to do anything. I think
the boy who demoed that said it was a wonderful new
feature.
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
-----Original Message-----
From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle 10
So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG?
I wasn't there, but am curious.
Patrice.
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