RE: Oracle Performance Tuning Exam

I agree with Dennis, it depends on what you work with most. I found the DBA exam the easiest one, and the Backup the hardest one.

Luck

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WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

David - I haven't taken all the exams yet, but the advice I heard was not to take the SQL exam first. On the surface it sounds easy, but it tends to be more of a SQL trivia test. For most of us practicing DBAs, I heard that the DBA exam tends to be the easiest, and is a good place to start and build your confidence. Naturally I didn't do it that way, but from what I have seen it is good advice. Depending on what you work with most, some exams may be easier for you than others. Perhaps some on the list who have taken all 5 can provide you more opinions.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

There are totally five exams we have to pass to get certified, I'd like to know which exam should I take first and what next in order?  

Thanks,

David  

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BTW, That is why I didn't spend more than a few hours preparing for that exam. I already sensed that it would be a waste of time in the long-run.

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Good posting. Thank you. This week Morten Egan from Miracle A/S (who's on this list as well, I think) is teaching the Tuning Class for Oracle Denmark, and he's had a few comments as well about the materials.

Morten, would you care to comment (in your usually nice and easy manner?) If was, after all, you who came with the "unlearn" quote below.

Best regards,

Mogens

DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

>Mogens - I posted this note back in October.
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> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:08 PM
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> To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'
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> >
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>List
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>I spent last week at an official Oracle Education Oracle9i Performance
>Tuning Class, and here is some of the non-technical stuff I learned.
>
>- Oracle is teaching the wait interface more and more. In fact, they
>are
>updating the curriculum next month to emphasize the wait interface even
more
>(lucky me).
>
>- Just how the wait interface is emphasized may depend quite a bit on
>the
>instructor, despite what the materials say. My observation is that our
>opinions are based on what we have experienced and our interpretations
of
>those experiences. So we will probably still have some instructors that
will
>still feel that the wait interface is a passing fad and if you really
>want
>to straighten out a database, you need to get in there and improve the
BHR
>(Buffer Hit Ratio).
>
>- My instructor was John Hibbard. He is excellent, and I would highly
>recommend him. He went well beyond the class materials to providing
papers
>he has researched and presented himself, as well as other sources,
including
>papers from Cary Milsap and Jonathan Gennick who participate on this
>list.
>When you get through his class, you really feel you have been taken to
a
>whole new level of Oracle knowledge. He is also heavily involved in
>selecting and preparing the official Oracle training materials for the
>courses he teaches. Besides Performance Tuning, he teaches several
other
>Oracle classes. Most of the people in my class happened to be more
>experienced with Oracle, and John did a good job of answering advanced
>questions with some depth, but not leaving the newbies in the dust.
>
>- A funny observation on buffer hit ratio vs. wait interface. The last
>day
>of class is an opportunity to take a really screwed-up database and
apply a

>little of what you have learned. The first scenario is titled "Buffer
>Cache". So you run the workload assignment and STATSPACK and look at
the
BHR
>and say "wow, that is bad", increase the buffer pool, and rerun the
workload
>and STATSPACK. The BHR hasn't changed much, so the tendency is to
>dumbly
>bump the buffer pool even more and go again. Then you look down at the
top
5
>waits section just below on the first page of the STATSPACK report and
>see
>that the big wait item is "Scattered Read". Then you go "dope slap" and

>realize this schema is missing some critical indexes and table scanning
it's
>little heart out. I just found it ironic that some people have reported
that
>some of the Oracle instructors emphasize the BHR too much when the
>first
>Workshop Scenario has a great example of why focusing on BHR can't
solve
>many problems. But again, we have experience vs. interpretation of
>experience. A real died-in-the wool BHR fanatic would probably claim
that
>BHR had solved the problem because the first indication that something
was
>wrong was spotting the bad BHR, which led to other investigations.
>
>
>
>Dennis Williams
>
>DBA
>
>Lifetouch, Inc.
>
>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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>Yeah, if you've taken the performance exam, you must now unlearn what
>you
>have learnt, to quote from Starwars. I've considered creating a one- or

>two-day class that would put people into the right track of thinking
after
>having studied and passed that exam. The other exams are more or less
fine.

>The tuning one really - ahm - could be improved...
>
>Mogens
>
>Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us < mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us
<mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us> > wrote:
>
>
>Guys,
>
>I took this exam after 12 hours studying and missed 4 questions. I
>studied

>using the self-test software (few practice exams) some memorization and

>the

>student guides from the oracle 8 tuning - read through once and not
>every
>item (not 8i class) - where the heck was statspack in the examm, btw?
I
>took it in 20 minutes. Only the network one to go. Can't wait to get
this

>done so can do the 9i upgrade exam - then wishing to concentrate on
>certification relating to 9ias - is there such a beast?
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:14 AM
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>
>Arslan - I'm hoping you get some good replies since I plan to take this
exam
>
>next.
>
>I just took the B&R last week. The resource that helped me the most is:
>Oracle8i Certified Professional DBA Practice Exams by Jason S. Couchman

>

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>1>
>J&isbn=0072133414 (hopefully this link will work, it will be broken
>into

two
>
>lines which you must patch back together).
>
>Dennis Williams
>DBA, 20% OCP
>Lifetouch, Inc.
>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com < mailto:dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
<mailto:dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com> >
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:38 AM
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> I will enter my last exam at next week.
> Could DBAs which have this exam give some advice.
>
>
>
 

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