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Soon you too will be assimilated. The TUSC Collective will add your
distinctiveness to its own.
--Seven of Nine-Hundred Ninety-Nine
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel W. Fink [SMTP:optimaldba_at_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:59 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
>
> I know Stan Yellott is not a TUSC employee. He is the President of RMOUG
> and a great guy who has worked behind the scenes at many IOUG conferences.
> He is a tremendous calming influence (as many of us recall from San
> Diego).
>
> I don't think Ian, Mark, Bill, Stephen or Steve are TUSC Employees, unless
> they have changed jobs recently.
>
> Henry Poras wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know if any of the 10 people running for the Board of
> Directors for
> IOUG is a TUSC employee? Noone claims it in their statements.
>
> Henry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:24 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> me too...
>
> Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> ineyman_at_perceptron.com <mailto:ineyman_at_perceptron.com>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:11 AM
>
>
>
>
> evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.
>
> joe
>
>
>
>
> It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
> subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous
> relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.
>
> No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone
> has
> to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
> to be a viable organization and in this economic
> climate few can afford to do it.
>
> Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
> Probably. Will it be able to survive without
> Oracle?
> I doubt it.
>
>
> --- Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
> <mailto:jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
> Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better
> for all concerned if there is some measure of
> co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
> bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just
> keeps doing things that the users want, then
> the users should be able to support it in the
> complete absence of any input from Oracle.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Lewis
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>
> MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
>
>
> The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
>
>
> Oracle can survive
> without the IOUG.
>
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