RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

Jared

Good to hear from you! I'd heard from Cary and Mogens you were still out there alive and kickin' somewhere, but I'd lost your email address (hence the reason you don't get the email any more).

For those that want to subscribe to the mailing list, I'd suggest you first look at the back postings available on the Files link on http://www.oaktable.net (shameless plug!) and then send me an email if you're interested in receiving it. All I need is your name and email address.

Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:06 AM To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com; Pete Sharman

Pete,

I used to get your newsletter, and even resubscribed after your big move, but then lost track of it.

Feel free to publish subscription info here on Oracle-L.

Welcome aboard!

Jared

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 09:19, Pete Sharman wrote:
> April
>
> I'm afraid I can't answer what Oracle DOES do for IOUG, being a lowly
> scumbag consultant, but one thing I can suggest to you and any other
> user group co-ordinator types is to send me (well in advance)
> notification of your events. I run a DBA mailing list that gets mail
> sent out monthly if I have the time, and you may hit some of your
> constituents that way. It's a worldwide distribution list, so I'm not

> sure whether anyone from your area is on it, but it certainly won't
> harm anyone to include that information as needed.
>
> I missed the beginning of this thread since I only subscribed to
> oracle-l last night, so I can't comment on the rest of it.
>
> Pete
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
>
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
>
> Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Wells
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and
> other OUGs for that matter. I can't get them to even tell people
> about TSOUG... let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or
> anything else). Most of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get
> back to me to tell me if he is still telling his contacts in the area
> that we even exist!
>
>
> April Wells
> Oracle DBA
> Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre

> minds -- Albert Einstein
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring
> papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't
> conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were).
>
> Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't

> live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :)
> ) we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the
> Oracle building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room

> somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine.
>
> Mogens
>
> Peter Barnett wrote:
>
>
> It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
>
> subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous
>
> relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.
>
>
>
> No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has
>
> to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
>
> to be a viable organization and in this economic
>
> climate few can afford to do it.
>
>
>
> Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
>
> Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle?
>
> I doubt it.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jonathan Lewis <mailto:jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
> <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
>
> Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better
>
> for all concerned if there is some measure of
>
> co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
>
> bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just
>
> keeps doing things that the users want, then
>
> the users should be able to support it in the
>
> complete absence of any input from Oracle.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Jonathan Lewis
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>
>
>
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> The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
>
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
>
>
>
>
>
> MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
>
>
>
> The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
>
>
>
> Oracle can survive
>
> without the IOUG.

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