Re: Upgrading Target Database in RMAN

Turned out to be as simple as 'register database'...

... because I had to recreate it to use the UTF8 charset, and it was then a 'new' DB, with a new DBID.

jared

On Sunday 16 February 2003 17:13, Jared Still wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 08:23, Ron Yount wrote:
> > 1) The catalog must be as new as, if not new than, the target db before a
> > new rman backup will work.
>
> Already done.
>
> > 2) No action is required on target database after the upgrade if
> > requirement 1 is met. Since your RMAN is run by the rman executable on
> > the target node, it (the catalog) knows what version it is backing up.
>
> Thank you, this is the part I was looking for. I suspected this to
> be the case, but could find nothing to verify this. Still can't.
> Do you know where to find this in the fine docs?
>
> > 3) If you did need to restore the older version of the database, you
> > would likely need to restore the old version of the oracle binaries.
>
> Nah, just restore the database and upgrade it.
> Just went from 8.1.6.3 -> 8.1.7.4.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jared
>
> > No, unregister is not an attractive option for reasons you have already
> > mentioned.
> >
> > HTH,
> > -Ron-
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:04 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Stephen, but 'upgrade catalog' is used to
> > upgrade the RMAN catalog when the repository
> > database is upgraded.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > On Saturday 15 February 2003 21:18, Stephen Lee wrote:
> > > I've done this ... now if I can just remember ...
> > > The repository version has to be at least as high as the database
> > > version. That much I know for sure. It's easy to do. I think you
> > > just execute the "upgrade catalog" command. If this condition is met,
> > > then you will find out real fast if you need to re-register the
> > > database when you run a backup. I don't recall needing to do this.
> > > But if you think about it, restoring a pre-upgrade backup would put
> > > you back to your old version of the database while your binaries are
> > > at the new version. Hmmmm.....
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill_at_cybcon.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:49 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: Re: Upgrading Target Database in RMAN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I guess that's an option also.
> > > >
> > > > Still seems like a workaround though.
> > > >
> > > > Jared
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday 15 February 2003 15:18, Tim Gorman wrote:
> > > > > How about running in NOCATALOG mode for a while?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 11:38 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I've thought of doing that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It just makes it much harder to restore the old database from
> > > > > > tape should the need arise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe I'll export the repository and re-import it somewhere else
> > > > > > for a few weeks safe keeping.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jared
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Saturday 15 February 2003 03:38, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > > > > > > without knowing too much about RMAN, but from things
> > > >
> > > > I've gathered from
> > > >
> > > > > > > the list....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can you "unregister" the current db (after a backup of
> > > >
> > > > course) and then
> > > >
> > > > > > > register the new version once it's ready?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > Here I am, still at work at 10:00 PM.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A lovely upgrade likely to take all my time until
> > > >
> > > > sometime Tuesday.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > But enough about my problems.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No wait, there's more... :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm going to upgrade a database from 8.1.6.4 to 8.1.7.4
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This database is currently being backed up via RMAN.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It occurred to me a few minutes ago that I have no idea how
> > > > > > > > to make RMAN aware of the new version of database.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm relatively sure it will balk at seeing the
> > > >
> > > > database suddenly
> > > >
> > > > > > > > upgraded, without having received some sort of
> > > >
> > > > notification first.
> > > >
> > > > > > > > I've been checking MetaLink, Robert's book, and the docs,
> > > > > > > > but have not yet determined how to care for this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Suggestions, advice and coffee gladly accepted.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pertinent platform info:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Win2k Server SP 2
> > > > > > > > Oracle 8.1.6.3 EE -> 8.1.7.4 target DB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RMAN catalog on Win2k Server SP2
> > > > > > > > Oracle 8.1.7.4
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jared
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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