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Re: Optimizer help, get query to run as good as with RULE hint

From: Tim Gorman <Tim_at_SageLogix.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:23:46 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0054EF5D.20030216142346@fatcity.com>


Did the increase in SORT_AREA_SIZE change the execution plan, regardless of the use of hints (since certain hints can easily be ignored)? Larger SORT_AREA_SIZE might encourage the CBO to choose a SORT-MERGE join, for example...

>
> Coincidentally, one of the points I mentioned at the
> Hotsos Symposium was the increasing the sort_area_size
> could affect execution paths for the worse. (Even when
> there is no risk of excess memory usage causing swapping).
>
> I was going to post a simple example to demonstrate this -
> and then cane across a really bizarre result in 8.1.7.4
> and 9.2.0.2 -
>
> Using EXACTLY the same script to generate and report
> data, and hinting EXACTLY the same execution path,
> and running the 10053 trace against it, I built an example
> where the optimizer cost of sorting went UP when I increased
> the sort_area_size from 1M to 5M for a particular query.
> The 10053 trace showed: "cost / pass 18" when s_a_s
> was 1M, and " cost / pass 35" when s_a_s was 5M -
> when everything else was exactly the same.
>
>
> BTW - your statistics would suggest to me that I
> needed to find out what bits of code were doing so
> much sorting - and see if I could address the problem
> at source, rather than fiddling with database parameters.
>
>
> Regards
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Date: 14 February 2003 17:54
> hint
>
>
> >I changed my sort_area_size to 1M (down from 5M) and the query
> completed in 18 seconds.
> >
> >We had set sort_area_size to 5M at the suggestion of Oracle or other
> reasons. Looks like it's time to set it back.
> >
> >I ran the disk_sorts query and it returned this:
> >
> >DISK_SORTS AVERAGE_SIZE PEAK_CONCURRENT
> >---------- ------------ ---------------
> > 47073 23815K 826
> >
> >Doesn't this suggest setting sort_area_size larger?
> >
>
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