Re: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition - RAC

I'm not sure, but I think the good, old standard standby thing will work with SE ($15K per CPU).

Data Guard requires EE, so that's $40K.

But 3rd party tools (I have tested none of them, but I know the name Quest Shareplex) will run on SE - but then they probably cost a lot, too. Oracle is moving towards the idea that any HA-option will require you to use EE. In some places, where SE is good enough, 3rd party tools might suddenly look attractive :).

Mogens

Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:

>Simple:
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>RAC = $60k per CPU.
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>Standby = $40k per CPU.
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>Jared
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>DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
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>Dick
> How is the standby database cheaper? I understood from previous list
>discussions that you had to license the standby server as well.
> As the hardware and O/S become commodities, I think Oracle would like
>to
>avoid becoming a commodity. Commodity prices are low, as any farmer can
>tell
>you.
> But the further issue is "how do Oracle DBAs avoid becoming a
>commodity?". Maybe the next question coming is "why should we pay more for
>a
>DBA when we're getting the computer and software so cheap?"
>
>Dennis Williams
>DBA, 40%OCP
>Lifetouch, Inc.
>dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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>Jared,
>
> I don't know about the rest of the list members, but the company I
>work
>for
>would like to have the technology but without the additional license
>expense.
>Therefore were going to do the standby database thing instead of RAC. Now
>if
>your into using Linux with low end PC's then maybe you can justify it. I
>don't
>know, it gives me the whillies when the software costs more than the
>hardware
>and OS combined.
>
>Dick Goulet
>
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>Author: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
>Date: 2/11/2003 8:29 AM
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>This is all cool technology, and fun stuff to play with.
>
>It all begs the questions,
>
>"How many of us work for a business that actually need this?"
>
>"Are they willing to pay $400/user $20k/CPU above the cost
>of Oracle 9i EE to use it?"
>
>"Are they willing to pay the extra overhead required to maintain it?"
>
>I'm not sure the ROI is there for many of us. Though downtime
>at our business is somewhat expensive, I think that a failover
>system or even standby database will provide adequate coverage
>for us, which is indeed a hot topic here right now, after our Dell
>SAN put us out of business for 36 hours.
>
>RAC wouldn't have helped much there. Niether would a cluster
>for that matter. Standby DB would have been perfect.
>
>This whole push of RAC by Oracle reminds me very much of the
>mlife phone campaign by ATT. Do you really need to take pictures
>with your phone? And what is the point of sending text messages
>to someone elses phone when you could just call them?
>
>ATT needs you to buy this stuff, because they have it for sale.
>
>I see RAC in a similar light. Do you need RAC? Oracle needs
>you to 'need' it, because they need some reason for you to
>spend more money on their product.
>
>Jared
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>
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>On Saturday 08 February 2003 21:23, Richard Ji wrote:
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>>To those who are interested in running RAC on Linux.
>>I know we have been talking about RAC on linux lately. This is great
>>
>>
>news
>
>
>>Redhat has made a special developer's edition for their Advanced Server
>>which
>>only costs $60! So we don't have to shell out $699 for a copy of RHAS
>>
>>
>2.1
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>>to play with RAC.
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>>http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/
>>
>>Have fun.
>>
>>Richard Ji
>>
>>

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