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RE: Agnostic references for Pracle v SQl Server 2000

From: Martin Kendall <mkendall_at_oracle-rescue.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 11:11:59 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004D6F4D.20020923111159@fatcity.com>


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Sorry about the subject text typo. It should read "Agnostic references for Oracle v SQl Server 2000"  

-----Original Message-----
Kendall
Sent: 23 September 2002 19:34
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L  

Hello all. I need to provide a one page report on why it may be beneficial for an organisation with light usage, small DB to move from Oracle to SQL Server. Their request is purely due to having a recognition of their charity status by Microsoft and therefore being able to get everything
at a much reduced price.  

It is bad enough that they do not have experienced Oracle DBA's on site, now it seems that they are attracted by the apparent ease of use / setup/ Graphical everything.
They are even looking at adopting the same development technology as one of their main benefactors as this may help them win further funding from such a benefactor. I am talking .NET and VB.  

I am also asked to phrase my paper from the point of "future proofing" their business technology.  

I am struggling with the agnostic approach when taking into account the concept of "vendor lock-in".  

It seems that cost is everything. But they will need to accept that cost is not just what you pay
for the base product.  

People, I am not really interested in a "religious war" on this - no doubt such discussion types
have appeared on this List before. All I am asking for is pointers to any ref. material that you may know of.  

Happy days !  

Martin    

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry about the subject text = typo.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>It should read = &#8220;</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;

mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Agnostic references for Oracle v <span =
class=3DSpellE>SQl</span>
Server 2000&#8221;</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span= ></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>---= --Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf = Of </span></b>Martin
Kendall<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date

Month=3D"9" Day=3D"23" Year=3D"2002"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = lang=3DEN-US
 =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>23  September 2002</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span
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 lang=3DEN-US =
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size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Multiple recipients =
of list
ORACLE-L<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Agnostic =
references for
Pracle v SQl Server 2000</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello all.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>I need to provide a one page = report on
why it may be<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>beneficial for an = organisation with
light usage, small DB to move<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from Oracle to SQL = Server.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Their request is purely due = to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>having a recognition of = their
charity status by Microsoft and therefore being able to get = everything<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>at a much reduced = price.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It is bad enough that they = do not
have experienced Oracle DBA&#8217;s on = site,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>now it seems that they are = attracted
by the apparent ease of use / setup/ Graphical = everything.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They are even looking at = adopting
the same development technology as one of their main benefactors as this = may
help them<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>win further funding from = such a
benefactor.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>I am talking = .NET and
VB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am also asked to phrase = my paper
from the point of &#8220;future proofing&#8221; their business = technology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am struggling with the = agnostic
approach when taking into account the concept of &#8220;vendor = lock-in&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It seems that cost is everything.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>But they will = need to
accept that cost is not just what you pay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>for the base = product.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>People, I am not really = interested
in a &#8220;religious war&#8221; on this &#8211; no doubt such = discussion types<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>have appeared on this List before.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>All I am asking = for is
pointers to any ref. material that you may know = of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Happy days = !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo= nt></p>

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