Re: so when did you switch from NT to unix for oracle

its not a unix processor versus intel processor, i think its more a OS decision.

I run all of my stuff on intel processors, just linux not windoze :)

joe

Mogens Nørgaard wrote:

> Maybe it's time to provoke a bit :-).
>
> Situation: I'm sitting here in Steve Adams' house (about 7 meters away
> from the IxOra server, which is SO small - just like the LITTLE
> mermaid in Copenhagen - very disappointing), and Anjo, Cary, Jonathan
> and the rest have gone to bed.
>
> Whiskies available on the oak table: Bowmore and Ardbeg.
>
> Provocative Thoughts (aimed at generating discussion, please):
> Basically a P4 processor can run circles round a Unix processor today
> (in other words: Unix processors are loosing the battle). A customer
> today would get most bang for the buck by bying Intel instead of Unix
> processors. The problem, of course, is that you can only choose
> between Windows and Linux on the Intel platform. If - this is no
> longer a choice - you could choose Solaris on Intel, you would get so
> much bang for the buck that nothing could compete with it. If Intel
> could handle many processors that would be interesting, too.
>
> I think Unix processors are dying. I didn't like it when VMS died
> (because it's the best operating system that was ever built). But it
> died. Now what?
>
> Mogens
>
> Hemant K Chitale wrote:
>
>>Aah ! You _are_ looking at moving out of NT.
>>Why I don't think it is an enterprise class platform
>>
>> 1. Much poorer memory management [2GB, memory leaks etc]
>>than Unix.
>> 2. Cannot scale beyond 4 CPUs.
>>I AM surprised that you run a 450 users SAP
>>application on 4CPU, 2GB on NT. Try that with
>>Oracle Applications !
>> 3. Any patch (e.g. the security patches that come out
>>from Microsoft) requires a reboot of the server. I can
>>understand OS patches requiring a Unix reboot but a
>>patch to MSIE/Outlook/IIS on the same NT-box as the
>>database requiring a reboot of the server ? Unacceptable.
>> 4. I don't know how good Online Backups are on NT.
>>
>>Hemant K Chitale
>>http://hkchital.tripod.com
>>----- Original Message -----
>>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fa
>>tcity.com> <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, 25 May, 2002 4:33 AM
>>
>>
>>>1) Not pulling any legs. That's what we run.
>>>
>>>2) We have a few reasons to switch to another platform.
>>>I'm lobbying for Solaris with Veritas Database Edition. Many
>>>good reasons for doing so, but I'm beginning to have my
>>>doubts about financing it.
>>>
>>>One of our current projects is to put in place an enterprise
>>>class backup and recovery system. The current one is lacking
>>>in several respects.
>>>
>>>One of damagement's questions: "What happens if we do nothing?"
>>>
>>>Another was "What's the ROI?"
>>>
>>>PHB's abound.
>>>
>>>Jared
>>>
>>>On Friday 24 May 2002 08:03, Hemant K Chitale wrote:
>>>
>>>>No way ! You're pulling a lot of legs
>>>>[and hurting a lot of egos who take pride in
>>>>pointing out that NT is _not_ an enterprise-class
>>>>platform, me included].
>>>>
>>>>Hemant K Chitale
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>>>Sent: Friday, 24 May, 2002 8:00 AM
>>>>
>>>>>How about 250 Gig, 450 users on SAP 4.0B?
>>>>>
>>>>>4 Cpu's 2 Gig Ram.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stop making me defend NT!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Jared
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Disser, Arno" <a.disser_at_sfs.nl> <mailto:a.disser_at_sfs.nl>
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>>>>> cc:
>>>>> Subject: RE: so when did you switch from NT to unix for
>>>>>
>>>>oracle
>>>>
>>>>>Here are my 0.02EUR
>>>>>
>>>>>Turn this reasoning around: Why would anyone use NT for a serious
>>>>>
>>Oracle
>>
>>>>>DB-server?
>>>>>Okay, for some minor development perhaps, but for an production
>>>>>environment?
>>>>>
>>>>>b.t.w., ever considered a switch to VMS?
>>>>>
>>>>>Arno Disser
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