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Re: Order rows

From: Alexandre Gorbatchev <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:13:19 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00463380.20020517001319@fatcity.com>


Agree. We are talking the same things :)

Alexandre

> Alexander,
>
> OK, we're splitting hairs here. :)
>
> Of course ROWID's are stored in indexes, the database
> has to be able to locate the rows. They are an internal mechanism
> and not part of the user data.
>
> And yes they can be used, and safely in certain situations. Updating
> a row in PL/SQL comes to mind. But they should never be stored in
> a table for other than temporary utility usage.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
> "Alexandre Gorbatchev" <alexandre.gorbatchev_at_avermann.de>
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> 05/16/2002 12:08 AM
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> Jared,
>
> Oracle gives you a chance to use it. And it's very common to use. Isn't
> it?
> There is no conception of phisical location in realational theory. I'm not
> saying that pure theory is the best for practical use, though. :)
> BTW, Oracle stores ROWID in indexes... instead of primary key (which is
> stored only in case of indexes on IOT). Of course, that's speed up access,
> but...
>
> Alexandre
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > > In fact ROWID is the Oracle implementation and against RDBMS rules. :)
> > > ROWID gives information about phisical location of the record. That
> MUST
> > NOT
> > > be in PURE relational database. Nowadays, there is no pure relational
> > > database implementation.
> >
> > That doesn't really count, as Oracle does not store that as part of the
> > data. It
> > is generated from datafile and datablock information at runtime.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
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