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You are just a glutton for punishment, aren't you. ;)
Jared
"Freeman, Robert " <Robert_Freeman_at_csx.com>
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05/13/2002 02:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Rman ... what do YOU need
Well, we are GO for the RMAN book. Contract should be signed soon. So, hopefully, next October (for OOW) you will be seeing an Rman Backup and Recovery Handbook. Now I have a couple of people to contact... If you are one of those, please be patient, I'll be gettn' to you shortly.
:-)
RF
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:55 PM
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Dennis,
It's possible the version you have was corrected. I know that it was the
first
printing that had some serious, unintentinal omissions.... I think only in
the
first few chapters.
What really hurts the author is when they catch the error, send the
correction
in in time to be fixed for the bound printing and it doesn't make it in. I
mean,
it's bad enough that I miss things and they get into print (and thank
goodness
marlene and I back each other up and find things the other misses).
Fortunately,
we've never had the problem where we corrected the errors and they went
through
anyway.
We have an excellent project editor, who is as anal as we are about
putting
out
a clean book.. so I sometimes get several sets of page proofs. Sigh, and
I
wonder why my eyes ache all the time and I can't see anymore!
Rachel
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Thanks Rachel. To choose between speedy publication (copyright 2002) and
waiting another 6 months for an error-free book, I'll choose speedy.
Especially since I've become increasingly desperate for a good RMAN
tutorial
over the past months. And after all, this book is designed to teach you to
BACKUP your database. And honestly, I haven't noticed the typos. But I do
appreciate your pointing out the errata site.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:28 PM
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Folks, just a word of warning. Through NO FAULT of the authors, there are
a
number of errata in the first edition of the book.
There is a complete errata list on the Osborne site:
http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/oraclepress/errata.html
Page proofing is one of the worst tasks on earth (I know, I'm doing it now
for
the 9i version of DBA 101). We found one chapter that is totally messed
up,
we
had to have it resubmitted to be put into proofs. With deadlines and print
schedules what they are (TIGHT), we are lucky that there is time to redo
it
before the book comes out in June.
Rachel
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Kitri - Thanks so much for pointing this book out. I have purchased it and
worked through almost all the examples. It is excellent. It was exactly
what
I needed. I had found it difficult to get started with RMAN. I had read
the
Oracle manual, and taken the Oracle 8i Backup & Recovery class (briefly
covers RMAN, no classroom exercises), and felt I was getting nowhere. I
needed some concrete practice exercises.
About half of Backup & Recovery 101 is devoted to RMAN. He
takes
you
step-by-step through creating a practice database, creating an RMAN
catalog
database, configuring RMAN, performing backups, listing RMAN information
from both the RMAN catalog and the target database control file,
performing
recoveries using RMAN, creating an RMAN duplicate database, creating an
RMAN
standby database, and performing an RMAN tablespace point-in-time
recovery.
Each chapter has several relevant exercises to work through.
He has instructions for both Linux and NT, but he worked the
exercises on Linux, so for NT you will have to adjust more, but there is
probably enough information for you to succeed. I used the Linux
instructions on a Unix system and had no problems, other than the fact
that
my practice system is Oracle 8.1.6 and his instructions are for Oracle
8.1.7. But the adjustments were simple and even added to my learning.
So, if you are considering RMAN, but don't know where to start,
I
enthusiastically recommend that you buy Oracle Backup & Recovery 101.
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=1G60ZMKA1J&
mscssid=G50N06L3282V9M7H7E1C63LT2FLNDC69&isbn=0072194618
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
FWIW --
Oracle Press recently published a "Backup & Recovery 101" book by Kenny
Smith and Stephan Haisley.
I have not yet read it, but it claims to have RMAN coverage.
Since it is part of the '101' series, I presume it covers most of the
basic
stuff.
Has anyone purchased it? And read it?
I may check it out at IOUG-A next week :)
Regards,
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Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:54 PM
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I'm contemplating doing an Rman backup and recovery handbook. I'm
wondering
what you would like to see in such a book and would you use such a book?
Ideas and comments welcome.
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration
The Cigarette Smoking Man: Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him.
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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 2:54 PM
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I don't think you can do it.. I mean, you could change it to trunc the oracle_date field (that eliminates the minutes) and then do a to_date of :b1 but you will still be operating on the oracle_date field.
Okay, I HATE to suggest this, but since the table is small:
add another field to the table oracle_date_2 as a date field. Update the table set oracle_date_2=trunc(oracle_date)
add a trigger to fill in oracle_date_2 when you insert a row or update the oracle_date column
create an index on oracle_date_2 and change the query to use that column
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