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Mladen,
The people who put those tools together (at Hotsos and UBTools) did not "receive secret information" or "have access to information" or use some other shortcut not available to you. Rather, they exhaustively and laboriously researched the mechanisms involved to develop these tools. These tools are the result of a tremendous amount of effort on their part: research, observation, testing, and persistence (often "after hours"). They have doubtlessly shared these tools for free with friends and colleagues, but like anyone else, they deserve compensation if someone (not a friend or colleague) is going to make use of efforts. That's just the way the world works.
I was speaking to a CIO recently who said, "Hey, there's no magic in this stuff. I can write SQL too!". Yup, but is that how you want to spend your time and can you really do all the other stuff that comes with creating tuned applications? Consider the "build-vs-buy" aspects as well...
Oracle Corporation protects its intellectual property quite vigorously, but even they cannot stop someone from "reverse-engineering" in order to understand the mechanisms. Nobody at Hotsos or UBTools has secret passwords (Oracle Legal would freak out!). Only inspiration, a good network of talented friends, and a helluva work ethic...
...just my $0.02...
-Tim
> Is there a commercial tool that will do the same thing
> as the tool from hotsos? I am sort of angry with oracle
> for not providing such tool to all of it's users. I'm more
> inclined to test my abilities as a DBA (and those have been put to
> test once or twice) then to pay $50/month to a 3rd party company
> whose only advantage is that it has access to the information
> and the tool that I do not have. If the information was available
> to me, I could have used a little bit of flex/bison in conjunction
> with OCI to write such a thing.
> If I have to buy the tool, so be it, but then I want to use it
> whenever I want, without the monthly fee. This, with all due respect
> looks like milking a gullible cash cow and, with all due respect, I
> don't like that.
> I think that oracle should make public the information needed for such a
> tool so that the rest of us who know how to put together a yacc grammar
> can at least take a shot at writing such a tool.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha [mailto:oraperfman_at_yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:13 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: formating 10046 (level 12) trace file
> >
> >
> > Mohammed,
> >
> > You can look at 2 known options :-
> >
> > 1) The Hotsos Profiler at
> > http://www.hotsos.com/products/profiler/
> >
> > 2) ITRProf on http://www.ubtools.com/main.html
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Gaja
> >
> > --- Mohammed.Ahsanuddin_at_VerizonWireless.com wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if there is any tool or script which
> > > can get the SQL and its
> > > associated bind values from 10046 (level 12) trace
> > > file and format it in a
> > > readable way..
> > >
> > > Any hints will be highly appreciated..
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mohammed Ahsanuddin
> > > Oracle DBA
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