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RE: Oracle wants your job

From: Grabowy, Chris <cgrabowy_at_fcg.com>
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 09:48:30 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004550DB.20020501094830@fatcity.com>


Hmmm...if Oracle hosts my database, and something "bad" happens, and it goes down for the day.

Is Oracle going to pay me for the downtime? I think not. Is Oracle going to reimburse me for all the sales I lost? I think not. I'm sure some Oracle rep will make me all kinds of promises that they will fix their process so it will never happen again. Not.

If the data is in house then "someone" can be held accountable. Procedures can be updated.

As for your money example, if I didn't need a checking account (for checks), a credit card, a mortage, a car loan, then I wouldn't need a bank, and all my money would be stuffed under my...so if banks all of sudden appeared, then yes, I would put my money into a bank, because I need all those services that the bank provides.

Besides, technology is already kicking in that some stores (in Seattle) are accepting your fingerprint as your form of payment. You setup an account with the store and tie your fingerprint to a credit card.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:22 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Hello List,

Maybe, some of you will not be agree with me, But, I think centralization will
occur.

Let's imagine that There is no banking system in the world and everyone keeps their
money at home. And, someone claims that there will be banks and people will give
money to banks. In this case, we would say 'Why'. We would say "Why do I give my
money to a bank ?".

This is same thing for IT sector. Some of us say "Why do I give my data ?". I'm
saying if we give our money to a bank, why don't we give our data to data centers ?

Which one is important for commercial companies, money or data ? Money is centralized, why not data ?

Also, Centralized information makes societies more democratic, more clearer.

Danisment....

dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:

> Jared,
>
> The other problem with outsourcing, which we've run head on into, is
that an
> ASP wants you to run the application "plain vanilla". Customization of an
> application to fit your business/needs is one area they really do not like
to
> handle. Makes upgrading a pain in the *&^, which means some of your
clients are
> running PeopleSoft 7 while the remainder are on Peoplesoft 8. Also your
patch
> levels will vary, due to the customization. Hence, if you need to
customize you
> can't outsource.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
> Date: 4/30/2002 7:08 AM
>
> <RANT>
> This has all been tried before, and the predictions are the
> same: financial nirvana, big savings in technology costs,
> no pesky holier-than-thou DBA's baffling poor damagers
> with stuff they can't possibly understand.
> </RANT>
>
> Very few executive, managers or DBA's are going to want
> to place their corporate data on Oracle's site, or even provide
> access to it from outside for non-employees.
>
> There's also the whipping boy factor. Who's butt you going to
> kick when the database is screwed up? ;)
>
> Heard a good quote on a documentary the other night:
> "A corporation has no soul to save nor an ass to kick".
>
> Someone local must be accountable for the data. The whole
> outsourcing thing is kind of baffling to me at times. Why not
> carry it out its fullest measure?
>
> Outsource mfg, sales, IT, design and executives. No need
> for any employees.
>
> Guess I turned of the rant too soon.
>
> Jared
>
> On Tuesday 30 April 2002 06:44, Farnsworth, Dave wrote:
> > http://www.infoworld.com/articles/se/xml/02/04/29/020429seoracle.xml
> >
> > Dave
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