RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?

From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:26:23 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0033A5E1.20010627095028@fatcity.com>

Arn't you going to make sure
you actually have the disk space to resize that data file first? Something
OEM does not do for you.
Must go out to the server and check.

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: JOE TESTA   [mailto:JTESTA_at_longaberger.com]Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 7:22   AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re:   OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
  Mike, i'm with you there.

  alter database datafile '/fill/in/name/here' resize   200m;

  or right click in OEM and change the size. As long as   you can do the previous then might as well use the latter :)
  joe

  >>> MHately_at_etech-uk.com 06/27/01 09:26AM   >>>More on the same vein. Sorry if this thread is   developing a "me too" feel.I'm happy to use GUI tools when they save   me time. I know what they're doing andhow they achieve their   results.The availability of GUI tools is however a huge disincentive for   new DBAs tofind out how the database actually works and leads to a lack of   understanding ofthe way the beast works as a whole.If your goal is   to be a knowledgeable and effective DBA then you can't beatstarting from   the command line and working your way towards GUI when you findyour feet.   That requires a long-term viewpoint though, and the world isfocussing   increasingly on the short term.If I sound like a Luddite then I've   given the wrong impression; that;s just my

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Subject: Re: OT RE: 24 x 7 on

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I agreeAs a newbie to the Oracle fold I found it oh so easy to dive intostuff with the DBA Studio, I suppose the thing that stops me is some 7 ormore years hacking around Linux and Unix systems. Graphical tools are greatfor some things but you just cant beat the capabilities of a good scriptand Windows will be a lot better for it now it has a good scripting system.What i found DBA studio for thogh was the show SQL button I could set upsome task to do and then have a look at the SQL that was going to happen soI could better understand it.I am sure when we start seeing more Oracle up on Win2K we will see a lotmore scripting on that side to do those mixed OS and SQLPlus tasks.Peter McLartypeter.mclarty_at_incts.com04 0209 4238System AdministratorL plate Oracle DBAAt 03:56 AM 27/06/2001 -0800, you wrote:>On June 27, 2001 07:55 am, Mark Leith wrote:> > slapping developers - what's the problem with them?>>No problem slapping developers.... rather enjoy it actually ....>>The issue I have with point & click is the increasing number of>database admins who can only use these tools. Put them in front of a>command line and they will sit and stare blankly. GUI tools can be>great (except when they're written in java :), but you should>actually know what you are doing and the 'how & why' behind it before>you start clicking a database to death.>>Just my cynical $.02.>Cheers,>GC>----Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A
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