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Oh I agree by far!! Having visited Amsterdam a couple of times myself in the past couple of years I have to say from what I saw, that Holland has be to the MOST relaxed country in the whole of Europe if not the world!!
And the golf courses are GREAT!! I would recommend anybody to visit the place AT LEAST once in their lifetimes.
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Remco
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 03:01
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Sounds like I'm working in one of the more relaxed countries of the world, with a low cost-of-living :). You've just made my day. I'll go home whistling and in a very good mood, today !
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Van: Guy Hammond [mailto:guy.hammond_at_avt.co.uk]
Verzonden: donderdag 21 juni 2001 14:31
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Onderwerp: RE: * I'm Looking for an Oracle Financials DBA for Miami,
I was having a similar conversation with a friend of mine a couple of months ago. We were both London (England) based consultants, but we'd been staffed on engagements in Amsterdam (Holland). The cost-of-living is indeed a lot less, if you look at things like grocery shopping, the cost of riding the T, rent you'd pay on an apartment etc. But then, average pay is a lot less too, if you convert to GBP or USD and compare to London or Boston (MA), and the rate of tax is higher.
Anyway, he really liked it there, and was thinking about a permanent relocation. I said, that will mean a big cut in your pay, to local rates, and replied that it didn't matter, he would be able to afford a much better quality of life than he could living in London. So, he had a point, he would have less money, but that money would go further, and he liked the Dutch pace of life and attitude, which is a lot more relaxed than London or the East Coast (I think that's what he's done now). But what quality of life is, is subjective. I love to travel, and even tho' I was traveling a lot for work, whenever I took vacation I'd get straight back on a plane and go visit friends somewhere else in the world, or just go exploring. This freedom is important to my perception of quality of life. Which means that when I think about remuneration, I have to benchmark my salary against cost of living in different cities, the cost of airline tickets/hotels/hire cars, even the exchange rates between currencies. (A plague on the Chancellor for the USD/GBP rate at the moment).
So, that's complicated, but it does mean that I'm happy to work long hours, because that's the way of life that I have chosen. Maybe in a few years what will matter to me most is personal time, and then I'll take a job that lets me work fewer hours and I won't mind having less money.
Cheers,
g
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