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only when you write magazine articles or short stories. :)
>From: "JOE TESTA" <JTESTA_at_longaberger.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: Working from home
>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:31:12 -0800
>
>so then if you use a REAL SMALL Font(like this msg),
>
>then you can get more word with less pages per book and make more?
>
>Joe
>
>
> >>> carmichr_at_hotmail.com 06/15/01 11:51AM >>>
>well, there are different rules for different things... it's not the number
>of pages, it's the number of words :)
>
>back in the early days of pulp fiction, writers were paid by the word, not
>the story... the more words, the more money. Made for very very detailed
>stories :)
>
>
> >From: "Toepke, Kevin M" <ktoepke_at_cms.cendant.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: OT: Working from home
> >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:05:52 -0800
> >
> >Come on Rachel. You mean that lines of code is not a good measure of a
> >programmer's productivity? Next thing you'll tell me the its not the
>number
> >of pages that makes a book good? :->
> >
> >(fleeing for my life)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:01 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Nuno, you are preaching to the choir here I think :)
> >
> >There was a manager in that same shop who measured her programmers
> >abilities
> >
> >by the number of lines of code they wrote in a day. She also said to me
> >once
> >
> >"I don't like to waste time on design"
> >
> >Truly. And they wondered why people kept quitting on her.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: Re: OT: Working from home
> > >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:45:53 -0800
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >
> > > > So we all lied a lot. And this was "sitting at our desks"
> > > >
> > >
> > ><rant>
> > >That IMHO is the main flaw of all these new management techniques
> > >and "metrics" being pushed by methodology reps. They are
> > >very good when dealing with coal face workers. They haven't got
> > >a chance in hell of accurately representing working patterns when
> > >dealing with a technical job. Most of them are extrapolated
> > >from factory environments, where the amount of work is easy to
> > >measure in terms of units/hour. Since none of them even make
> > >an effort at defining what's a unit of work for a DBA or a designer
> > >or an "architect" or even an analyst, they fail miserably in
> > >properly tracking this type of job.
> > >
> > >Result? Totally incorrect project metrics and cost extrapolations.
> > >Corollary? Make these jobs disappear because of their "inconvenience"
> > >in fitting a flawed model. Not fix the model.
> > >
> > >And they wonder why projects can easily "fail"? They can't even
> > >accurately define "failure" nowadays!
> > ></rant>
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >Nuno Souto
> > >nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au
> > >http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den
> > >
> > >
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